IBM Rigid Cleaning Tool 2200574

2018-02-25 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
https://www.ebay.com/itm/232678490872

anyone run across a volume source for these?

They appear to be IBM's version of the Texsleeve




Canon BX-1 (1977) Manuals

2018-02-25 Thread osi.superboard--- via cctalk
Recently, I’ve started working on a Canon BX-1 machine dated 1977.
It was CANON's first standalone business / home computer featuring I guess the 
Motorola MC6809 CPU, one line of gas plasma display a thermal printer and 125k 
floppy drive.
See pictures here: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rT4qwtiR68AN5DRqoCwjxGDJvRRdlHha

In working condition but without manuals or disks. Only little can be found for 
this machine, its not listed in http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ nor 
https://amaus.net/static/S100/
Also http://archive.computerhistory.org/ isn't mentioning the machine.

So I would be happy, if anyone can help in disk images or manual scans (manual 
front pages are shown in the picture link above)
regards Thomas

Known CANON BX-1 Disk/Documents
Disks:
MCX OPERATING SYS. STANDARD BASIC AND BOOT 
MCX SYSTEM DISK
MCX EXTEND BASIC BOOT. PROGRAM, GL SYSTEM, TM_P CALC, FORCE FORM

Manuals:
CANON BX-1 INSTRUCTIONS
CANON THE INSTRUCTION TO THE BX-1
CANON EASY PROGRAMMING PART I
CANON EASY PROGRAMMING PART II
CANON OPERATION MANAUL AND EXPLANATION OF INSTRUCTIONS



Panasonic Electronic Filing System - document scanner storage on MO disks

2018-02-25 Thread David Schmidt via cctalk

Hello, all -

Has anyone run across the subject system - a mid-90s Motorola '030-based 
document scanner/retrieval system?  KV-F520 seems to be a model of the 
unit, along with LF-7300A or LF-7304 5-1/4" MO drives.  I have a hold of 
some media that I can read, and can see the moral equivalent of files in 
Panasonic's own format - I suspect it's thinly veiled TIFF or maybe a 
capture format of their own making.  Has anyone else run across this before?


- David


Re: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!

2018-02-25 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
It's gone meta: people threadjacking a thread about threadjacking. Now 
it's some posters trying to show others who is smartest about arcane 
details of obsolete email software.


Re: Maxtor full-height 5.25" drives of death

2018-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Reed via cctalk

 A tangential question out of curiosity: who here has 5.25" MFM
 drives they're extremely surprised are still working, and which
 model(s)?
 ...

 - John

I¹m always surprised when I get my hands on an old st238 and it still
works, the amplifiers were run out of spec on most of them with no heat
sinking so they tend to burn up and damage the PCB
\




Re: Maxtor full-height 5.25" drives of death

2018-02-25 Thread allison via cctalk
On 02/22/2018 07:45 AM, Ulrich Tagge via cctech wrote:
> /Here is my list. 6x RD54 (Maxtor XT2190) >2x OK, 2x Media Error, 1x
> Actuator Issue, 1x Head issue 3x RD53 (Micropolis 1325) >2x Actuator
> issue, 1x actuator issue followed by spinning issue (speed sensor?)
1325s with head stuck will normally spin down.  If the head does not
position there is no servo
so the motor control shuts the show down.  The fix is pop the cover and
remove the offending goo that
was the bead bumper stop.

Allison

> 4x Seagate ST251 >4x OK 3x Seagete ST225 >3x OK 3x IBM Type 068 >3x
> Dead On the 3.5" side I have also many dead drives (<1GB capacity).
> Mostly sticky actuators and dead tantalum caps, but by now nothing I
> was not able to repair. Many Greetings Ulrich /
>>>
>>> A tangential question out of curiosity: who here has 5.25" MFM
>>> drives they're extremely surprised are still working, and which
>>> model(s)?
>>> ...
>>>
>>> - John
>
>



DEC Pro 350

2018-02-25 Thread Kurt Hamm via cctalk
Well, I bought that DEC Pro 350 on ebay.  It initially booted up and I got
the error screen.  The error code I found on the Internet was related to
the hard disk controller.  So, I thought I just needed someone to sell/give
me some systems disks for the unit and I could try to setup the drive again
if it still functioned.

Then, it after a couple of restarts (I re-seated the boards and cleaned the
connectors) it stopped showing the error screen (with picture of the
computer).  All the diagnostic lights are red on the back and nothing ever
shows on the screen.  The power comes on and then nothing.

If anyone has any thoughts, I would appreciate it.  I knew the history of
this type of computer and figured it was a long shot.  I am just
disappointed to have gotten really nowhere with it.

Thanks!

Kurt


Re: Canon BX-1 (1977) Manuals

2018-02-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 22 February 2018 at 22:56, Thomas B via cctech  wrote:
> Recently, I’ve started working on a Canon BX-1 machine dated 1977.

Some info in French:

http://mo5.com/musee-machines-bx1.html

Might be worth asking them...?


-- 
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Re: Searching for Sun2 and Sun3 bits and bobs- a long-running project approaches completion!

2018-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Reed via cctalk


On 2/24/18, 2:46 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Ian via cctalk"
 wrote:

>Hi folks,
>
>I recently, on a trip to Oregon, finally got a compatible ECL monitor for
>my Sun 2. It came with a rather nice Sun 3/260, which I¹d like to run as
>well.
>
>So I thought I¹d put out a beg here- I¹m so close to finishing this.
>
>I need to shake loose a keyboard and mouse for a Sun 2.
>
>Would anyone be willing to sell me one? I¹m not expecting a handout; they
>would be paid for and well loved.
>
>On a related note, I¹d love to run the 3/260 as well: What I¹d like to do
>for that is hunt down a Sun color framebuffer for it so I can use a more
>common display. (and of course, enjoy the wonders of color).
>
>I¹m not sure what the options there are, but I have a nice scan converter
>so just about any compatible color framebuffer will do. I can then
>totally repurpose the monitor I¹ve just found for my 2/120.
>
>So, in the words of another immortal list member, ³advice hints ²
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>- I


id recommend either a CGtwo-VME 501-1014 or the 3rd party matrox vme for
the sun 3 series.




ARPANET Reaches the Royal Signals and Radar Establishment (RSRE, Malvern)

2018-02-25 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
The following extract comes from a History of Programming Languages (HOPL)
retrospective on the development of the Ada programming language written by
the individual who was the government lead at DARPA for much of the time of
its development (Colonel William A. Whitaker).  I found it humorous.
Perhaps you will too.

 

-

The ARPANET connection was inaugurated during a visit to RSRE by Her Royal
Highness Queen Elizabeth II.  Her Majesty sent a message of greetings to the
members of the HOLWG from her net account, EIIR, by pressing a red velvet
Royal carriage return.  Because the address list was long, it took about 45
seconds for the confirmation to come back, 45 seconds of dead air.  Prince
Philip remarked, joking respectfully, that it looked like she broke it.

-

 

I suspect that we've "all been there" at one time or another!

paul

 



ibm panel

2018-02-25 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk

So, all this talk about panels made me making an oak frame for an
IBM panel I had lingering around in the attic for a while.

Still need to make a back panel to close it tough.

http://bit.ly/2HI2cHC

The cables were already cut when I got it.

Ed
--
Ik email, dus ik besta.





Re: DEC Pro 350

2018-02-25 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Kurt Hamm via cctalk  wrote:

> Well, I bought that DEC Pro 350 on ebay.  It initially booted up and I got
> the error screen.  The error code I found on the Internet was related to
> the hard disk controller.  So, I thought I just needed someone to sell/give
> me some systems disks for the unit and I could try to setup the drive again
> if it still functioned.
>
> Then, it after a couple of restarts (I re-seated the boards and cleaned the
> connectors) it stopped showing the error screen (with picture of the
> computer).  All the diagnostic lights are red on the back and nothing ever
> shows on the screen.  The power comes on and then nothing.
>
> If anyone has any thoughts, I would appreciate it.  I knew the history of
> this type of computer and figured it was a long shot.  I am just
> disappointed to have gotten really nowhere with it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kurt
>

Kurt,
Sounds like you can't do much of anything but to confirm my understanding...
Can you enter terminal mode?
Can you boot from a diskette?

How confident are you in the power supply?  Have you checked all of the
voltage rails?

Bill


Re: DEC Pro 350

2018-02-25 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
fredag 23 februari 2018 skrev Kurt Hamm via cctalk :

> Well, I bought that DEC Pro 350 on ebay.  It initially booted up and I got
> the error screen.  The error code I found on the Internet was related to
> the hard disk controller.  So, I thought I just needed someone to sell/give
> me some systems disks for the unit and I could try to setup the drive again
> if it still functioned.
>
> Then, it after a couple of restarts (I re-seated the boards and cleaned the
> connectors) it stopped showing the error screen (with picture of the
> computer).  All the diagnostic lights are red on the back and nothing ever
> shows on the screen.  The power comes on and then nothing.


The tech manual is :
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp11/pro3xx/EK-PC350-TM-001_Professional_300_Series_Technical_Manual_Dec82.pdf

In case you haven't already found it.

All LED on means sytem module failed. (Page 5-33). Have you checked power
supply voltages? I would try to remove all option boards and see if that
makes any difference. The printer port is actually a console port. The
details is in the manual (page 5-126 and 5-131). I suspect that all leds
come on if it fails to run the rom based diagnostic. It might have halted
to uODT in case you could try use the console to see if you could diagnose
the problem.




> If anyone has any thoughts, I would appreciate it.  I knew the history of
> this type of computer and figured it was a long shot.  I am just
> disappointed to have gotten really nowhere with it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kurt
>

Good luck!

/Mattis


What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
What is vintage computing?

I think it's the IBM PC.  Anything else is not vintage computing.

 b

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> It's gone meta: people threadjacking a thread about threadjacking. Now
> it's some posters trying to show others who is smartest about arcane
> details of obsolete email software.
>


Re: ibm panel

2018-02-25 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Pretty!

Marc

 

From: cctalk  on behalf of 
"cctalk@classiccmp.org" 
Reply-To: , "cctalk@classiccmp.org" 

Date: Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 5:30 AM
To: "cctalk@classiccmp.org" 
Subject: ibm panel

 

 

So, all this talk about panels made me making an oak frame for an

IBM panel I had lingering around in the attic for a while.

 

Still need to make a back panel to close it tough.

 

http://bit.ly/2HI2cHC

 

The cables were already cut when I got it.

 

Ed

--

Ik email, dus ik besta.

 

 

 

 



PDP11/03 BA-11M Front panel switch replacement

2018-02-25 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I have a BA11-M box with the usual front panel control, however it was 
damaged and all three switches have been sheared off.  The LED's and the 
circuit card that connects to the power supply appear to be OK.  I would 
like to repair it and put it back into service.  Is there a replacement 
for those switches?


Doug



Re: ibm panel

2018-02-25 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Well done, tasteful.

I was very lucky with who ever scrapped that 360/50 and took the hinge and
frame along with the panel.

One then can anchor the frame to the studs or something and not have to
worry about how the heck one
is going to hang a 75 lb or whatever panel to the wall.

-pete

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:30 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
> So, all this talk about panels made me making an oak frame for an
> IBM panel I had lingering around in the attic for a while.
>
> Still need to make a back panel to close it tough.
>
> http://bit.ly/2HI2cHC
>
> The cables were already cut when I got it.
>
> Ed
> --
> Ik email, dus ik besta.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:

What is vintage computing?
I think it's the IBM PC.  Anything else is not vintage computing.


Frankly, I'm shocked.

I could have understood, if you were to have chosen Atari, Superbrain, 
Commodore 64, or Coleco Adam.  Anything other than those, . . .


Re: What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 02/25/2018 05:51 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:

What is vintage computing?


I think the Department of Motor Vehicle of my home state considers any 
cars over 25 years old to be historic ~> vintage.


Does something like that count?



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread allison via cctalk
On 02/25/2018 09:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>> What is vintage computing?
>> I think it's the IBM PC.  Anything else is not vintage computing.
>
> Frankly, I'm shocked.
>
> I could have understood, if you were to have chosen Atari, Superbrain,
> Commodore 64, or Coleco Adam.  Anything other than those, . . .
Fred,

 Just wow!  

Set reaction$mode=sarcasm/troll

Does he mean my 1973 PDP-8f, or maybe the Altair, TRS80, or my LSI-11/03
is not?
 Heck I don't even keep PCs as collectible, oops I do have a random
Ratshack HX1000.

Seriously?


Allison




Re: What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

What is vintage computing?


On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
I think the Department of Motor Vehicle of my home state considers any cars 
over 25 years old to be historic ~> vintage.


Which aspects do you consider the DMV to be competent in?

Is a 1983 car really "historic ~> vintage"??
I can't tell them apart since the 1970s!
Yes, I can tell the difference between the bumpers of 1973 Honda V 1974, 
but only because i was working on them.
In the 1960s, there were some more interesting cars: The Honda S800 (not 
imported to USA) was a 2 seater sports car that was a poor man'd 
Ferrari - a design exercise that got out of hand and went into 
production, with dual OHC, roller bearing, (even distributor shaft), 9.5K 
(conservatively) redline.
Meanwhile, the Toyota 800 was a very similar body with barely more than a 
lawn mower engine.   When competing, the question was whether the race 
would be long enough to be decided by speed or DNF.




Does something like that count?


NO!

long time ago, some claimed that the definition for this list (a claim 
rejected by list management) was "ten years".


Today, I might agree with 27 years, but next year I would want an 
increment.


Although I consider PC to be fun, I'm not sure that I could agree with 
calling it "vintage".




If John Titor is around, I will supply a 5100 (APL AND BASIC) and a good 
investment portfolio in exchange for ONE-WAY back 55 years.  Payment 
arranged after arrival.   I'll take the long way part-way home.



--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
I know it has been discussed a billion times before...

My personal measure has nothing to do with the 20 year rule - I use the
introduction of the PC as the end of the Vintage era.  IBM made the
computing industry standard and boring.

Anything pre - 1982 is interesting, anything post 1982 is a boat anchor...
(Duck)

Doug


Doug Jackson
VK1ZDJ


On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:59 PM, allison via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 02/25/2018 09:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> >> What is vintage computing?
> >> I think it's the IBM PC.  Anything else is not vintage computing.
> >
> > Frankly, I'm shocked.
> >
> > I could have understood, if you were to have chosen Atari, Superbrain,
> > Commodore 64, or Coleco Adam.  Anything other than those, . . .
> Fred,
>
>  Just wow!
>
> Set reaction$mode=sarcasm/troll
>
> Does he mean my 1973 PDP-8f, or maybe the Altair, TRS80, or my LSI-11/03
> is not?
>  Heck I don't even keep PCs as collectible, oops I do have a random
> Ratshack HX1000.
>
> Seriously?
>
>
> Allison
>
>
>


Re: PDP11/03 BA-11M Front panel switch replacement

2018-02-25 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Hi Doug,

It might be cheaper to get a BA11-N and use them. The BA11-M panels are
very difficult to find,

Paul

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I have a BA11-M box with the usual front panel control, however it was
> damaged and all three switches have been sheared off.  The LED's and the
> circuit card that connects to the power supply appear to be OK.  I would
> like to repair it and put it back into service.  Is there a replacement for
> those switches?
>
> Doug
>
>


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote:

I know it has been discussed a billion times before...
My personal measure has nothing to do with the 20 year rule - I use the
introduction of the PC as the end of the Vintage era.  IBM made the
computing industry standard and boring.
Anything pre - 1982 is interesting, anything post 1982 is a boat anchor...
(Duck)


I think that the PC/5150
(truly a "danger to itself and others", using another meaning of "5150")
was August 11, 1981.


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


Re: PDP11/03 BA-11M Front panel switch replacement

2018-02-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk < 
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

I have a BA11-M box with the usual front panel control, however it was
damaged and all three switches have been sheared off.  The LED's and the
circuit card that connects to the power supply appear to be OK.  I would
like to repair it and put it back into service.  Is there a replacement for
those switches?

In general, many old switch patterns are still made.  Often, 
they have a manufacturer's name and part # on the body of 
the switch. Some common makes from back then were C&K and Alco.


Jon


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I thought vintage had to do with wine--and not necessarily old.

e.g. 2006 cabernet sauvignon.

"Vintage computing" occurs when you figure out how many bottles you've
drunk.

--Chuck


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I thought vintage had to do with wine--and not necessarily old.
>
> e.g. 2006 cabernet sauvignon.
>
> "Vintage computing" occurs when you figure out how many bottles you've
> drunk.
>

And here I was thinking it's what you bought on ebay last night after
drinking all those bottle of wine...

Warner


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

It could be argued that the industry was already going before that.

How many remember
Thinker Toys
Kentucky Fried Computers
Intergalactic Digital research

When the industry lost its sense of humor,
it was the beginning of the end.
THAT was the beginning of the end of "vintage".


Now, of course, the principals are embarrassed, and deny that there was a 
culture clash between DRI and IBM, that the FIRST prototype of a 5.25" 
disk was a bar napkin, etc.



I have in front of me, a 1983 copy of "InvisiCalc"
Why ask "What if. . .?"
When you can ask "Who cares?"
The software is for ANY computer with 5.25" drive,
disunirregardless of disk format!


Re: What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 02/25/2018 05:51 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>> What is vintage computing?
> 
> I think the Department of Motor Vehicle of my home state considers any cars 
> over 25 years old to be historic ~> vintage.
> 
> Does something like that count?

When the list was formed, it was defined as 20 years.  Of course now, the list 
itself is over 20 years old.

Zane






Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
It make me laugh and cry when I see on craigslist "Antique Computer" and it
is a C 64

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> It could be argued that the industry was already going before that.
>
> How many remember
> Thinker Toys
> Kentucky Fried Computers
> Intergalactic Digital research
>
> When the industry lost its sense of humor,
> it was the beginning of the end.
> THAT was the beginning of the end of "vintage".
>
>
> Now, of course, the principals are embarrassed, and deny that there was a
> culture clash between DRI and IBM, that the FIRST prototype of a 5.25" disk
> was a bar napkin, etc.
>
>
> I have in front of me, a 1983 copy of "InvisiCalc"
> Why ask "What if. . .?"
> When you can ask "Who cares?"
> The software is for ANY computer with 5.25" drive,
> disunirregardless of disk format!
>
>


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 8:30 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> It make me laugh and cry when I see on craigslist "Antique Computer" and it
> is a C 64

I’ve started seeing toys (mainly action figures) from the 80’s and early 90’s 
in Antique Shops. :-(

Zane




ISO: Tektronix 4404 peripherals

2018-02-25 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk

Hi all --

I'm working on fixing up a Tektronix 4404 workstation (runs 
Smalltalk-80!).  Or rather, I'm trying to collect the needed parts to 
assemble a complete system so that I might fix up said system -- at the 
moment I have only the main CPU unit (but hey, it's a good starting 
point).  I am looking for:


- Keyboard (Tektronix P/N 119-1872-00)

- Mouse (Logitech P7-3F-TX-19-1808-00).  This is likely a standard 
3-button quadrature mouse but if I can find the exact match, so much the 
better...


- Mass Storage (Tektronix model 4944, possibly others?  This is a SCSI 
device containing a hard drive on a SCSI->MFM bridge and 5.25" floppy 
drive on a custom SCSI->floppy interface.)


If anyone happens to have spares or knows anyone who might, please let 
me know.  Thanks as always!


- Josh




Re: IBM Rigid Cleaning Tool 2200574

2018-02-25 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/232678490872
> 
> anyone run across a volume source for these?
> 
> They appear to be IBM's version of the Texsleeve


What exactly is it?  It looks like a tongue depressor sewed into a piece of 
work glove type material.

We always used alcohol pads on any of the 9-Track tape drives I used.

Zane





Re: ISO: Tektronix 4404 peripherals

2018-02-25 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
I might have one of the SCSI <-> Floppy boards. They were scrap from when
the 6000 series was canceled. Put you on the list as I clear out

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:38 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi all --
>
> I'm working on fixing up a Tektronix 4404 workstation (runs
> Smalltalk-80!).  Or rather, I'm trying to collect the needed parts to
> assemble a complete system so that I might fix up said system -- at the
> moment I have only the main CPU unit (but hey, it's a good starting
> point).  I am looking for:
>
> - Keyboard (Tektronix P/N 119-1872-00)
>
> - Mouse (Logitech P7-3F-TX-19-1808-00).  This is likely a standard
> 3-button quadrature mouse but if I can find the exact match, so much the
> better...
>
> - Mass Storage (Tektronix model 4944, possibly others?  This is a SCSI
> device containing a hard drive on a SCSI->MFM bridge and 5.25" floppy drive
> on a custom SCSI->floppy interface.)
>
> If anyone happens to have spares or knows anyone who might, please let me
> know.  Thanks as always!
>
> - Josh
>
>
>
>


Re: What is vintage

2018-02-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Zane Healy wrote:
I’ve started seeing toys (mainly action figures) from the 80’s and 
early 90’s in Antique Shops. :-(


When Erector sets switched from their mains powered motor with gears to a 
plastic batter powerd, I wondered about the future of engineering in the 
USA.


With it discontinued, I no longer wonder.

With the advent of digital watches, kids need to stop and think for a 
while to figure out which way is "clockwise".


With calculators, kids can no longer do simple arithmetic.


Just keep them off of my lawn.




looking for a mother board for a hp 3000-37

2018-02-25 Thread Jerry Wright via cctalk
Anyone have such a piece or know someone that might. 

Board number is 30457-60001
Might take the whole thing if the price is right.

Thanks, Jerry


Re: looking for a mother board for a hp 3000-37

2018-02-25 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Feb 25, 2018, at 21:57, Jerry Wright wrote:
> Anyone have such a piece or know someone that might. 
> 
> Board number is 30457-60001
> Might take the whole thing if the price is right.

"mother board" is not how I would describe that part number.  That is the CPU 
PCA and is one of several cards that goes in a backplane slot along with 
memory, PIC, TIC, &c.  Backplane PCA is 30474-60006.

-Frank McConnell



Re: What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Sounds like some people need to adjust their sarcasm meters. Guys: BILL 
WAS JOKING because the topic was about threadjacking.


Re: What is vintage (was: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!)

2018-02-25 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk

When the list was formed, it was defined as 20 years.  Of course now, the list 
itself is over 20 years old.


Sigh ... well if we're really have this conversation I maintain that 
the present definition of "vintage", or at least how we see it over at 
Vintage Computer Federation, is no longer year-based. The proof: Windows 
98. :)


Obviously the * majority * of vintage computing is the sweet spot that 
we all know and love -- 1960s, 1970s, 1980s. But just as a modern car 
can become an instant collectible -- think Dodge Viper, original Ford 
Taurus, etc., which were groundbreaking designs -- so too must we all as 
collectors keep in mind that not everything old is worth saving, and not 
everything worth saving is old.


Re: DEC Pro 350

2018-02-25 Thread Kurt Hamm via cctalk
Thanks for the suggestions. Interestingly, upon first boot I was able to
get the hard disk controller error with the picture of the computer.  Then,
sure subsequent reboots failed to display anything.

I removed all the cards and booted with no luck.

It looks like I will need to build a cable to try terminal mode.  I did
hook a vt220 with a 9to25 cablw, but didn't get anything.

Since successful booting is intermittent, probably a heat or power
problem.  I will continue to try to get terminal mode working.

Kurt

On Feb 25, 2018 3:17 PM, "Mattis Lind"  wrote:

>
>
> fredag 23 februari 2018 skrev Kurt Hamm via cctalk  >:
>
>> Well, I bought that DEC Pro 350 on ebay.  It initially booted up and I got
>> the error screen.  The error code I found on the Internet was related to
>> the hard disk controller.  So, I thought I just needed someone to
>> sell/give
>> me some systems disks for the unit and I could try to setup the drive
>> again
>> if it still functioned.
>>
>> Then, it after a couple of restarts (I re-seated the boards and cleaned
>> the
>> connectors) it stopped showing the error screen (with picture of the
>> computer).  All the diagnostic lights are red on the back and nothing ever
>> shows on the screen.  The power comes on and then nothing.
>
>
> The tech manual is :  http://bitsavers.informatik.
> uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp11/pro3xx/EK-PC350-TM-001_
> Professional_300_Series_Technical_Manual_Dec82.pdf
>
> In case you haven't already found it.
>
> All LED on means sytem module failed. (Page 5-33). Have you checked power
> supply voltages? I would try to remove all option boards and see if that
> makes any difference. The printer port is actually a console port. The
> details is in the manual (page 5-126 and 5-131). I suspect that all leds
> come on if it fails to run the rom based diagnostic. It might have halted
> to uODT in case you could try use the console to see if you could diagnose
> the problem.
>
>
>
>
>> If anyone has any thoughts, I would appreciate it.  I knew the history of
>> this type of computer and figured it was a long shot.  I am just
>> disappointed to have gotten really nowhere with it.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>
> Good luck!
>
> /Mattis
>


Re: IBM Rigid Cleaning Tool 2200574

2018-02-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 02/25/2018 08:47 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

> 
> What exactly is it?  It looks like a tongue depressor sewed into a piece of 
> work glove type material.
> 
> We always used alcohol pads on any of the 9-Track tape drives I used.

The videotape folks use a sort of flat swab with ends covered in
chamois.  But these look to be a lot larger.

--CHuck


Re: IBM Rigid Cleaning Tool 2200574

2018-02-25 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Al said
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/232678490872
>
> anyone run across a volume source for these?
>
> They appear to be IBM's version of the Texsleeve

Interesting there is no mention of p/n 2200574 Rigid Cleaning Tool in the IBM 
CE Tools Guide for
August 1984 
http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/ibm/360/fe/S131-0075-3_CE_Tools_Ref_Aug84.pdf

This catalog lists some SLT tools so perhaps it post-dates 1984, or may have 
been deleted?