Re: [ccp4bb] Problem converting CNS cv file to mtz using f2mtz

2007-07-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
CNS format changes with the time of day and unfortunately f2mtz requires 
that you give a correct fortran format stt.



This command script works from the GUI:
Note that
1) you must the "skip lines"
2) you need X entries to skip unwanted characters . These include   INDE 
(7x)  FOBS= (6x) and also
the second entry after FOBS which is in this case always 0.000 so the 
17X skips that pluse SIGMA=


3) and since TEST= is on a second line you need the / to indicate this.

Kevin Cowtan has a clipper utility which is clever and does not require 
the format stt - it reads the header and works out what will follow from 
that. IT is available from here:


He writes:
This is a replacement for cns2mtz, which fixes all the reported bugs in 
that program, is rather more convenient, and handles other ascii file 
types as well, including at least SHELX hkl files and XtalView PHS files.


Changes include:
- Spacegroup headers are now generated correctly. (I hope).
- Column names may be speicified for non-CNS files or CNS files with 
missing headers.
- If a file contains F+/- or I+/- without sigmas (e.g. CNS density 
modified data), then dummy columns of sigmas are added automatically.


Any further problems, please let me know!

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~cowtan/convert2mtz/convert2mtz.html



***
/tmp/ccp4/acornmr2_412_2_com.tmp
***
title TRIAL 3
symmetry P1
cell 26.65 30.8 33.63 89.3 107.4 112.2
format '(7X,3F5.0,6X,F10.3,18X,F10.3,/,5X,F10.0)'
skipline 5
labout H K L FP SIGFP FreeRflag
ctypout H H H F Q X
PNAME acornmr2
DNAME trial3
XNAME trial3
end
## This script run with the command   ##
# f2mtz HKLIN "/y/people/ccp4/x.cv" HKLOUT 
"/tmp/ccp4/acornmr2_412_1_mtz.tmp"



Ryan Watkins wrote:

Hello Colleagues,

I'm trying to convert a cns cv file to a CCP4 mtz file.  I have only
Fobs and SigFs.  Unfortunately, I cannot get f2mtz to work and am
looking for some help.  The program dies either with a "cannot read
first reflection" or with a "child killed: bus error" error.  Here are
the 1st few lines of my file:

NREFlection=140763
  ANOMalous=FALSe { equiv. to HERMitian=TRUE}
  DECLare NAME=FOBS   DOMAin=RECIprocal   TYPE=COMP END
  DECLare NAME=SIGMA DOMAin=RECIprocal   TYPE=REAL END
  DECLare NAME=TEST   DOMAin=RECIprocal   TYPE=INTE END
  INDE   -4601 FOBS=63.800  0.000 SIGMA=33.060
TEST= 0
  INDE   -4602 FOBS=   168.800 0.000 SIGMA=19.440
TEST= 0
  INDE   -4603 FOBS=   331.700 0.000 SIGMA=13.850
TEST= 0
  INDE   -4611 FOBS=   210.000 0.000 SIGMA=13.400
TEST= 0
  INDE   -4612 FOBS=   297.800 0.000 SIGMA=11.830
TEST= 0
  INDE   -4501 FOBS=   559.100 0.000 SIGMA=18.030
TEST= 1
  INDE   -4502 FOBS=   500.400 0.000 SIGMA=16.800
TEST= 0

Thank you,

Ryan


Ryan Watkins
Postdoctoral Fellow
Brennan Lab
MD Anderson Cancer Center


  


[ccp4bb] pseudo-translation vector in molrep

2007-07-30 Thread Savvas Savvides
Dear colleagues,

For a particular MR problem I am dealing with, 'analyse_mr' suggests
that there maybe a pseudo-translation vector as evidenced by the very
significant non-origin peaks in the native patterson: e.g

GRID  80 112  80
CELL  104.8290  151.2840  109.4910   90.  118.1310   90.
ATOM1   Ano   0.  0.  0.  181.08  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM2   Ano   0.9483  0.  0.0106   46.89  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM3   Ano   0.0517  0.  0.9875   46.89  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM4   Ano   0.9494  0.9911  0.0090   40.66  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM5   Ano   0.0506  0.9911  0.9875   40.66  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM6   Ano   0.0572  0.9911  0.   37.26  0.0 BFAC  20.0

BALBES also reports a pseudo-translation vector at 0.951 0.000 0.007,
i.e. very similar to the output from 'analyse_mr'.

Yet, Molrep fails to recognize this possibility (in "auto' mode for the
PST) claiming that the 0.125 limit for the peak height compared to the
origin has not been reached. When I look at the output from 'analyse_mr'
it is quite clear the peak is at 0.25 of the origin peak.

Why is there such a discrepancy in the interpretation of the native
patterson map?

Best regards
Savvas



Savvas N. Savvides
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for Structural Biology and Biophysics
Laboratory for Protein Biochemistry - Ghent University
K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35
9000 Ghent, BELGIUM
Phone: +32-(0)9-264.51.24 ; +32-(0)472-92.85.19
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.eiwitbiochemie.ugent.be/units_en/structbio_en.html




Re: [ccp4bb] pseudo-translation vector in molrep

2007-07-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think the error is in BALBES - there is a peak I guess at 0.95 0 0.01 
but it must be too close to the origin to be a translation vector from 
one molecule to another.


There are reasons for such peaks - sometimes spurious large terms in the 
data..

but they dont usually represent true molecular translations.

Trust MOLREP!

 Eleanor

Savvas Savvides wrote:


Dear colleagues,

For a particular MR problem I am dealing with, 'analyse_mr' suggests 
that there maybe a pseudo-translation vector as evidenced by the very 
significant non-origin peaks in the native patterson: e.g


GRID  80 112  80
CELL  104.8290  151.2840  109.4910   90.  118.1310   90.
ATOM1   Ano   0.  0.  0.  181.08  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM2   Ano   0.9483  0.  0.0106   46.89  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM3   Ano   0.0517  0.  0.9875   46.89  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM4   Ano   0.9494  0.9911  0.0090   40.66  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM5   Ano   0.0506  0.9911  0.9875   40.66  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM6   Ano   0.0572  0.9911  0.   37.26  0.0 BFAC  20.0

BALBES also reports a pseudo-translation vector at 0.951 0.000 0.007, 
i.e. very similar to the output from 'analyse_mr'.


Yet, Molrep fails to recognize this possibility (in "auto' mode for 
the PST) claiming that the 0.125 limit for the peak height compared to 
the origin has not been reached. When I look at the output from 
'analyse_mr' it is quite clear the peak is at 0.25 of the origin peak.


Why is there such a discrepancy in the interpretation of the native 
patterson map?


Best regards
Savvas



Savvas N. Savvides
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for Structural Biology and Biophysics
Laboratory for Protein Biochemistry - Ghent University
K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35
9000 Ghent, BELGIUM
Phone: +32-(0)9-264.51.24 ; +32-(0)472-92.85.19
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_http://www.eiwitbiochemie.ugent.be/units_en/structbio_en.html_




[ccp4bb] problem in running DM (NCS averaging)

2007-07-30 Thread JOE CRYSTAL
Dear all,


I tried to run DM for NCS averaging (DM module in CCP4i 6.0.2 installed
under Windows XP), but the running failed at different stages with various
error message as listed below.   I was told it could be an installation
problem, but I don't know how to fix it.  I am wondering if you have
encountered  such problems before.  I am very thankful for any  help and
comments.   Thanks  in advance.



Error Message 1:

*

#CCP4I JOB_ID 69
#CCP4I SCRATCH C:/Ccp4Temp/
#CCP4I PID 772



 



dm 2.1



 ###
 ###
 ###
 ### CCP4 6.0: dm version 6.0   : ##
 ###
 User: Chen  Run date: 30/ 7/2007 Run time: 10:27:58


 Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
 "The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst. D50,
760-763.
 as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.




http://www.yorvic.york.ac.uk/~cowtan/dm/refs.html";>dm
reference:

K. Cowtan (1994),
  dm: An automated procedure for phase improvement by density modification.
  Joint CCP4 and ESF-EACBM Newsletter on Protein Crystallography, 31,
p34-38.



Contents

Command input
Comments
MTZ input
Data Checking
Data Scaling
Solvent Mask
First Cycle
Output


Command Input

 Data line--- MODE
 SOLV AVER
 Data line--- COMBINE
 PERT
 Data line--- NCSMASK
 SIZE 10
 Data line--- SCHEME
 ALL
 Data line--- NCYCLE
 AUTO
 Data line--- SOLCONT
 0.5
 Data line--- AVERAGE
 REFI

 ***  Warning
 Invalid keyword


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  2


 ***  Warning
 Invalid keyword


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  2


 ***  Warning
 Invalid keyword


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  2


 ***  Warning
 Invalid keyword


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  2


 ***  Warning
 Invalid keyword


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  2


 ***  Warning
 Invalid keyword


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  2


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  3


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  4


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  5


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  6


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  7


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  8


 ***  Warning
 Invalid sub-keyword in position  9

 Data line--- LABOUT
 FDM=FDM PHIDM=PHIDM FOMDM=FOMDM

 dm:  Input error (see above)
Times: User:   0.0s System:0.0s Elapsed: 0:00



***
* Information from CCP4Interface script
***
The program run with command: dm HKLIN
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/7_solvent_refmac7.mtz" HKLOUT
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/7_solvent_dm4.mtz" SOLOUT
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/7_solvent_dm2.msk" NCSIN1
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/A.msk" VUOUT
D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/delM_69_ncs.odat
has failed with error message
 dm:  Input error (see above)
***


#CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 " dm:  Input error (see above)"
#CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 30 Jul 2007  10:27:58
#CCP4I MESSAGE Task failed


Error Message 2:

+++
Initial Averaging Mask

***
* Information from CCP4Interface script
***
The program run with command: dm HKLIN
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/7_solvent_refmac7.mtz" HKLOUT
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/7_solvent_dm3.mtz" SOLOUT
"D:/xtalwork/DM21/delM_arpwarp/work1/7_solvent_dm2.msk" NCSOUT
"D:/xtalwork/tmp/delM_63_ncs.msk"
has failed with error message
forrtl: severe (157): Program Exception - access violation

Image  PCRoutineLine
Source
ntdll.dll  7C911E58  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
ntdll.dll  7C910D5C  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
dm.exe 004A8FFF  Unknown   Unknown  Unknown
***


#CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 "forrtl: severe (157): Program Exception -
access violation  Image  PCRoutine
LineSource  ntdll.dll  7C911E58
Unknown   Unknown  Unknown ntdll.dll  7C910D5C
Unknown   Unknown  Unknown dm.exe 004A8FFF
Unknown   Unknown  Unknown"
#CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 29 

Re: [ccp4bb] pseudo-translation vector in molrep

2007-07-30 Thread Fei Long
Hi,

I suggest you check which version of MOLREP you used. Currently,
BALBES now actually use MOLREP in 'auto' mode for PST. The two should
be the same. The difference may be because BALBES uses the latest
version of MOLREP.


Fei


On 7/30/07, Eleanor Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the error is in BALBES - there is a peak I guess at 0.95 0 0.01
> but it must be too close to the origin to be a translation vector from
> one molecule to another.
>
> There are reasons for such peaks - sometimes spurious large terms in the
> data..
> but they dont usually represent true molecular translations.
>
>  Trust MOLREP!
>
>  Eleanor
>
> Savvas Savvides wrote:
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > For a particular MR problem I am dealing with, 'analyse_mr' suggests
> > that there maybe a pseudo-translation vector as evidenced by the very
> > significant non-origin peaks in the native patterson: e.g
> >
> > GRID  80 112  80
> > CELL  104.8290  151.2840  109.4910   90.  118.1310   90.
> > ATOM1   Ano   0.  0.  0.  181.08  0.0 BFAC  20.0
> > ATOM2   Ano   0.9483  0.  0.0106   46.89  0.0 BFAC  20.0
> > ATOM3   Ano   0.0517  0.  0.9875   46.89  0.0 BFAC  20.0
> > ATOM4   Ano   0.9494  0.9911  0.0090   40.66  0.0 BFAC  20.0
> > ATOM5   Ano   0.0506  0.9911  0.9875   40.66  0.0 BFAC  20.0
> > ATOM6   Ano   0.0572  0.9911  0.   37.26  0.0 BFAC  20.0
> >
> > BALBES also reports a pseudo-translation vector at 0.951 0.000 0.007,
> > i.e. very similar to the output from 'analyse_mr'.
> >
> > Yet, Molrep fails to recognize this possibility (in "auto' mode for
> > the PST) claiming that the 0.125 limit for the peak height compared to
> > the origin has not been reached. When I look at the output from
> > 'analyse_mr' it is quite clear the peak is at 0.25 of the origin peak.
> >
> > Why is there such a discrepancy in the interpretation of the native
> > patterson map?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Savvas
> >
> >
> > 
> > Savvas N. Savvides
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Structural Biology and Biophysics
> > Laboratory for Protein Biochemistry - Ghent University
> > K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35
> > 9000 Ghent, BELGIUM
> > Phone: +32-(0)9-264.51.24 ; +32-(0)472-92.85.19
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > _http://www.eiwitbiochemie.ugent.be/units_en/structbio_en.html_
> >
> >
>


[ccp4bb] DNase inhibitors

2007-07-30 Thread bputcha
Hi all,
I have small crystals of protein DNA complex.  I am worried about the 
possibility of presence of some 
DNases in the drop (I use DNase in the lysis buffer). I have Tris and MgCl2 in 
the crystallization condition, 
which makes me hesitant to use DEPC or EDTA/EGTA respectively. Are there any 
other DNase inhibitors 
that I can use to protect the DNA? Any other precautions one should take while 
handling DNA
Thank you
Kumar

Dept. of Biochemistry, Cellular and Molecular Biology,
Walters Life Science, # 406,
University of Tennessee, TN, Knoxville, USA


Re: [ccp4bb] DNase inhibitors

2007-07-30 Thread Dima Klenchin

I have small crystals of protein DNA complex.  I am worried about the
possibility of presence of some
DNases in the drop (I use DNase in the lysis buffer). I have Tris and 
MgCl2 in

the crystallization condition,
which makes me hesitant to use DEPC or EDTA/EGTA respectively. Are there any
other DNase inhibitors
that I can use to protect the DNA? Any other precautions one should take 
while

handling DNA


There is something called aurintricarboxylic acid that I've seen mentioned
several times. it is supposed to be a general inhibitor of nucleases.
I have no experience with it.

Also, this may sound crazy but if you are worried about DNAse I that you
used in previous steps, one option is to add a little bit of actin. Actin 
binds

to DNAse I very specifically and with very high affinity, inhibiting its
activity. At the concentrations that you are likely to use it at, it should
be below critical concentration that makes it polymerize.

Dima