Re: [SPAM: 9.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware
I must confess that it has been a while since I have performed a W2K BMR and although I have always just copied back the files post restore for W2K3 BMR's, I had recalled that this was not possible in W2K as some of the files were held exclusively by the OS. However, finding a W2K machine, I can now see that this is not the case and it is definitely far easier to just copy the files back immediately after the restore for both and only use the recovery console/in-place upgrade in the event of a failed boot. I think that in some quarters, Wintel BMR's are seen as a 'fine art' or in some way not standard or excessively problematic. Hopefully Geoff, you will have gained some confidence in that there are many people who have performed a high number of Wintel BMR's without incident. I think there will always be the occasional exception and this would be true of the other platforms and OS's. I still think that performing a DR trial of your business critical Wintel systems on a regular basis gives the greatest piece of mind. One typo in my original posting, it should have read For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\windows\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: 28 September 2006 02:09 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 9.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the "in-place" upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the "in-place" upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager--> Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=116481 2&uid=swg21164812&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en Above all else, the key to restoring back to dissimilar h/w is practice. Where possible, try to trial restore as many of your Wintel systems back to unlike h/w. I know it is obvious, but it is far easier to solve any arising issues in a DR trial environment, than at 3am with somebody looking over your shoulder, asking every 5 minutes when will it be ready ? Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: 23 September 2006 00:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 4.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware >What kind of system are you concerned with? I'm looking for some basic info on all platforms anyone has experience with, Windows being the biggest concern. After hearing some remarks this morning in a meeting concerning bringing back a server from scratch, and how long it took, I'm flabbergasted. Then again nobody called me to ask for help either. To add to this are there any issues anyone is aware of for servers that have been virtualized but still use TSM for their backups? Would the process be the same? Th
Q: managedservices option
hi all, another quick one :-) why , oh why with q opt MANAGEDSERVICES: INVALID but in dsm.sys is SERVERNAME bscs * ENABLELANFREE yes COMMmethod TCPip TCPPort 1500 * LANFREETCPPort 1511 TCPServeraddress axptsm01 * LANFREETCPServeraddress mihael NodeName bscs inclexcl /usr/local/etc/inclexcl.bscs Mailprog /usr/bin/mail root Schedlogname /var/adm/dsmsched_X.bscs Schedlogretention 7 D ERRORLOGNAM/var/adm/dsmerror_bscs.log errorlogretention 7 D QUERYSCHED 12 MANAGEDSERVICESschedule webclient PASSWORDACCESS Generate memoryefficientbackup yes how to investigate the problem ? is it maybe the lowlevel client version ? # dsmc IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Command Line Backup/Archive Client Interface - Version 5, Release 2, Level 3.0 (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2004. All Rights Reserved. Node Name: BSCS Session established with server TSM01: AIX-RS/6000 Server Version 5, Release 3, Level 3.1
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
This is interesting, since my experience has been that we have had more success with W2K than W2K3 (using the copy-out/restore/copy-back you describe). I always seem to run into a brick wall with the way W2K3 does it's replace-on-reboot for system files being restored. Maybe I'm trying to copy back too early or too late - can you provide some detail on what is working for you? Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the "in-place" upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the "in-place" upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager--> Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=116481 2&uid=swg21164812&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en Above all else, the key to restoring back to dissimilar h/w is practice. Where possible, try to trial restore as many of your Wintel systems back to unlike h/w. I know it is obvious, but it is far easier to solve any arising issues in a DR trial environment, than at 3am with somebody looking over your shoulder, asking every 5 minutes when will it be ready ? Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: 23 September 2006 00:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 4.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware >What kind of system are you concerned with? I'm looking for some basic info on all platforms anyone has experience with, Windows being the biggest concern. After hearing some remarks this morning in a meeting concerning bringing back a server from scratch, and how long it took, I'm flabbergasted. Then again nobody called me to ask for help either. To add to this are there any issues anyone is aware of for servers that have been virtualized but still use TSM for their backups? Would the process be the same? Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
My original post regarding W2K BMR's was from memory and I recalled for some reason that the system files weren't copied back immediately after the system_object restore. I thought that this was because they were locked/owned by the OS. I checked this morning and realised that this is not the case. However, it may well have been to do with the way W2K replaces files on reboot and Windows File Protection. See posting http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg67895.html In the case of W2K3, I think that VSS and System File Protection (SFP) come into play. I also think that the differences in experiences may be accounted for by determining what version of W2K3 was being restored (ie W2K3 initial release or W2K3 SP1/W2K3 R2). The following article probably gives a better explanation. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vss/base/backing_up_and_restoring_system_state_under_vss.asp I still think that with either W2K or W2K3, if you make copies of the system files before restore, you can then copy them back after the system_object or system_state restore. If you encounter problems on reboot, then use MS Recovery Console to copy back your original system files. Finally, if all else fails, attempt an in-place recovery. Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve Sent: 28 September 2006 11:09 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 9.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware This is interesting, since my experience has been that we have had more success with W2K than W2K3 (using the copy-out/restore/copy-back you describe). I always seem to run into a brick wall with the way W2K3 does it's replace-on-reboot for system files being restored. Maybe I'm trying to copy back too early or too late - can you provide some detail on what is working for you? Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the "in-place" upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the "in-place" upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager--> Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=116481 2&uid=swg21164812&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en Above all else, the key to restoring back to dissimilar h/w is practice. Where possible, try to trial restore as many of your Wintel systems back to unlike h/w. I know it is obvious, but it is far easier to solve any arising issues in a DR trial environment, than at 3am with somebody looking over your shoulder, asking every 5 m
Re: Does TDP for SQL Archive exist?
Hi Paul, Data Protection for SQL does not have a direct TSM "archive" function as you see with the TSM Backup-Archive client. Many customers accomplish this by creating a second nodename for archive purposes (for example, SQLSRV42_ARCH), and have the management class settings for the backups made using the second node meet their needs. Thanks, Del "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 09/28/2006 12:09:39 AM: > In TDP for SQL, is there an equivalent backup type to the Archive backup > in TSM? > > > Paul Dudley
Select statements
I need a select that will give me all of my client schedules and tell me who is associated with them and what time they run. Client_schedules and associations are the tables I need. Just can't get my select to work. Any ideas? Not sure of the syntax on joining them. thanks
Re: Select statements
Why not just do a Q assoc * * That will give you every schedule and association. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeBlanc, Patricia Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:25 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Select statements I need a select that will give me all of my client schedules and tell me who is associated with them and what time they run. Client_schedules and associations are the tables I need. Just can't get my select to work. Any ideas? Not sure of the syntax on joining them. thanks
Help needed
Hi, Could anyone help me on how to define/add 2 client schedules. It would be great if someone could list of the steps on how to go about these. For eg: Schedule 1: INCR --For Incremental Backup on a daily basis Schedule 2: FULL --For FULL Backup on a weekly basis (every Sunday ) Let the Client node be : CLIENT Let the Server Node be : SERVER Regards, Srinath G This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies.
Re: Select statements
But it wont give you the schedule time. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee, Gary D. Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:41 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Select statements Why not just do a Q assoc * * That will give you every schedule and association. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeBlanc, Patricia Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:25 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Select statements I need a select that will give me all of my client schedules and tell me who is associated with them and what time they run. Client_schedules and associations are the tables I need. Just can't get my select to work. Any ideas? Not sure of the syntax on joining them. thanks
Re: Select statements
select domain_name, schedule_name, node_name, substr(char(scheduled_start), 1, 16) as SCHEDULED_START, - substr(char(actual_start), 1,16) as ACTUAL_START,status, result, reason - from events where LENGTH(domain_name) IS NOT NULL and ( (status = 'Started') or (status = 'Completed') - or (status = 'Pending') or (status = 'Failed') or (status = 'Missed')) - order by scheduled_start,status,result i find this one useful :-) - Original Message - From: "LeBlanc, Patricia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Select statements I need a select that will give me all of my client schedules and tell me who is associated with them and what time they run. Client_schedules and associations are the tables I need. Just can't get my select to work. Any ideas? Not sure of the syntax on joining them. thanks
Re: Select statements
Q EVENT * * Or the one provided by Stephen early today: select client_schedules.schedule_name,client_schedules.action,client_schedules. star ttime,associations.node_name - from client_schedules,associations where client_schedules.schedule_name=associations.schedule_name Regards, Rama -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeBlanc, Patricia Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:43 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Select statements But it wont give you the schedule time. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee, Gary D. Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:41 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Select statements Why not just do a Q assoc * * That will give you every schedule and association. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeBlanc, Patricia Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:25 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Select statements I need a select that will give me all of my client schedules and tell me who is associated with them and what time they run. Client_schedules and associations are the tables I need. Just can't get my select to work. Any ideas? Not sure of the syntax on joining them. thanks If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/
Re: Help needed
tsm>help define sched At 07:27 AM 9/28/2006, you wrote: Hi, Could anyone help me on how to define/add 2 client schedules. It would be great if someone could list of the steps on how to go about these. For eg: Schedule 1: INCR --For Incremental Backup on a daily basis Schedule 2: FULL --For FULL Backup on a weekly basis (every Sunday ) Let the Client node be : CLIENT Let the Server Node be : SERVER Regards, Srinath G This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies.
How Backup 3 DB at the same time
I need to backup 3 data bases at the same time (to 3 p.m. and the 1 a.m.). Each data base belongs to a different instance. Which would be the best way to do it? TSM Server is 5.3.2, TSM Client 5.3.2 with API 64bit and Data Base is DB2. Miguel Sáez Sáez IBM Certified Deployment Professional IT Specialist IBM de Chile S.A.C. mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 562-2006638
Re: How Backup 3 DB at the same time
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:03:23 -0400, Miguel Saez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I need to backup 3 data bases at the same time (to 3 p.m. and the 1 > a.m.). Each data base belongs to a different instance. Which would > be the best way to do it? TSM Server is 5.3.2, TSM Client 5.3.2 > with API 64bit and Data Base is DB2. What part of this process are you having problems with? - Allen S. Rout
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
If I have Win2K3 SP1 server that I want to recover then I build a new Win2K3 server leaving it in a work group. I copy out the hall.dll and ntoskrnl.exe. I then run the restore. I then copy back those files. My instructions do state to copy out all the sytem files and then back in but I've never had to do that to get it to work. I then reboot and 95% of the time the server just comes back up. When I get any boot error, I run through the in-place upgrade. "Schaub, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is interesting, since my experience has been that we have had more success with W2K than W2K3 (using the copy-out/restore/copy-back you describe). I always seem to run into a brick wall with the way W2K3 does it's replace-on-reboot for system files being restored. Maybe I'm trying to copy back too early or too late - can you provide some detail on what is working for you? Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the "in-place" upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the "in-place" upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager--> Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=116481 2&uid=swg21164812&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en Above all else, the key to restoring back to dissimilar h/w is practice. Where possible, try to trial restore as many of your Wintel systems back to unlike h/w. I know it is obvious, but it is far easier to solve any arising issues in a DR trial environment, than at 3am with somebody looking over your shoulder, asking every 5 minutes when will it be ready ? Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: 23 September 2006 00:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 4.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware >What kind of system are you concerned with? I'm looking for some basic info on all platforms anyone has experience with, Windows being the biggest concern. After hearing some remarks this morning in a meeting concerning bringing back a server from scratch, and how long it took, I'm flabbergasted. Then again nobody called me to ask for help either. To add to this are there any issues anyone is aware of for servers that have been virtualized but still use TSM for their backups? Would the process be the same? Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
Also note that R2 is not an SP, it is simply an upgrade on top of SP1. So, while I would still start with a recovery server at R2 if that was what I was recoverying you can not slipstream R2 into a bootal CD. As such the inplace upgrade process will need to be run with a Win2K3 SP1 slipstreamed CD. Leigh Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My original post regarding W2K BMR's was from memory and I recalled for some reason that the system files weren't copied back immediately after the system_object restore. I thought that this was because they were locked/owned by the OS. I checked this morning and realised that this is not the case. However, it may well have been to do with the way W2K replaces files on reboot and Windows File Protection. See posting http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg67895.html In the case of W2K3, I think that VSS and System File Protection (SFP) come into play. I also think that the differences in experiences may be accounted for by determining what version of W2K3 was being restored (ie W2K3 initial release or W2K3 SP1/W2K3 R2). The following article probably gives a better explanation. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vss/base/backing_up_and_restoring_system_state_under_vss.asp I still think that with either W2K or W2K3, if you make copies of the system files before restore, you can then copy them back after the system_object or system_state restore. If you encounter problems on reboot, then use MS Recovery Console to copy back your original system files. Finally, if all else fails, attempt an in-place recovery. Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve Sent: 28 September 2006 11:09 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 9.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware This is interesting, since my experience has been that we have had more success with W2K than W2K3 (using the copy-out/restore/copy-back you describe). I always seem to run into a brick wall with the way W2K3 does it's replace-on-reboot for system files being restored. Maybe I'm trying to copy back too early or too late - can you provide some detail on what is working for you? Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the "in-place" upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the "in-place" upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager--> Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=116481 2&uid=swg21164812&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en Above all else, the k
How to start Reclamation
Hi, How to start the reclamation process? Can anyone explain to me pl... NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communications Tech. Div 6th Floor,Pos Malaysia HQ 50670 Kuala Lumpur * : 03 - 22756638 *: 016 - 6090530 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Email scanned and protected by POS Malaysia
Re: How to start Reclamation
For example UPDATE STGPOOL TAPE RECLAIM=60 h upd stgpool -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norita binti Hassan Sent: Friday, 29 September 2006 11:18 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] How to start Reclamation Hi, How to start the reclamation process? Can anyone explain to me pl... NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communications Tech. Div 6th Floor,Pos Malaysia HQ 50670 Kuala Lumpur * : 03 - 22756638 *: 016 - 6090530 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email. Email scanned and protected by POS Malaysia Bunnings Legal Disclaimer: 1) This email is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email and delete the document. 2) All emails sent to and sent from Bunnings Group Limited. are scanned for content. Any material deemed to contain inappropriate subject matter will be reported to the email administrator of all parties concerned.
Re: How to start Reclamation
UPDATE STGPOOL RECLAIM=50 ...should do it, if you have any tapes that are at least 50% empty, and you have two drives free. There's a whole discussion of this in the TSM Administrators Guide. If that still doesn't start reclamation, check to see if you have any tapes that are empty enough, with Q VOL. Beware that the number on UPDATE STGPOOL is the percent EMPTY, not the percent FULL, though of course that difference does not matter for the usual recommended setting of 50%. Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] Academic Computing & Communications Center On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Norita binti Hassan wrote: >Hi, > >How to start the reclamation process? Can anyone explain to me pl... > >NORITA BINTI HASAN >Senior Programmer >Enterprise Systems Services >Information Communications Tech. Div >6th Floor,Pos Malaysia HQ >50670 Kuala Lumpur > >* : 03 - 22756638 >*: 016 - 6090530 > > > > >Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company > Visit us online at www.pos.com.my > >NOTICE >This message may contain privileged and/or confidential >information. If you are not the addressee or authorised >to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose >or take any action based on this email. If you have >received this email in error, please advise the sender >immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. >Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the >contents of this email. > > >Email scanned and protected by POS Malaysia >
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Hello, Can anyone help me on how to schedule with a sample example in a TSM? Regards, Srinath G This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies.
Re: Recurring error
Hi, I have the next error every night... ANE4993E (Session: 217053, Node: GBCWBLEIPSF3-SQL) TDP MSSQL ACO3002 Data Protection for SQL: log backup of database Pirate_Audit from server GBCWBLEIPSF3 failed, rc = 1914. (SESSION: 217053) 1) What does it mean? 2) What corrective action needs to be taken? Regards, Srinath G This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies.
Re: How to start Reclamation
Also you can add to administrative schedule: RECLaim STGpool pool_name THreshold=number DUration=minutes Wait=No(Yes) OFFSITERECLAIMLimit=number_of_volumes and set REClaim=100 (DEFINE or UPDATE STGPOOL for prevent unexpected reclamation process) REClaim must be greater than 50 (default 60), because if you have two tapes with REClaim=50 (50% in use or 50% free) 50%+50%=100%- you don't have assurance that all data go in to ONE new tape. If you set REClaim=60 - 40%+40%=80% full assurance. if you have only one drive set the RECLAIMSTGpool=pool_name when define or update STGPOOL * Roger Deschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:47:07 -0500]: UPDATE STGPOOL RECLAIM=50 ...should do it, if you have any tapes that are at least 50% empty, and you have two drives free. There's a whole discussion of this in the TSM Administrators Guide. If that still doesn't start reclamation, check to see if you have any tapes that are empty enough, with Q VOL. Beware that the number on UPDATE STGPOOL is the percent EMPTY, not the percent FULL, though of course that difference does not matter for the usual recommended setting of 50%. Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] Academic Computing & Communications Center On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Norita binti Hassan wrote: >Hi, > >How to start the reclamation process? Can anyone explain to me pl... > >NORITA BINTI HASAN >Senior Programmer >Enterprise Systems Services >Information Communications Tech. Div >6th Floor,Pos Malaysia HQ >50670 Kuala Lumpur > >* : 03 - 22756638 >*: 016 - 6090530 > > > > >Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company >Visit us online at www.pos.com.my > >NOTICE >This message may contain privileged and/or confidential >information. If you are not the addressee or authorised >to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose >or take any action based on this email. If you have >received this email in error, please advise the sender >immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. >Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the >contents of this email. > > >Email scanned and protected by POS Malaysia > -- Efim.
AW: [ADSM-L] Recurring error
Go to the Achive of adsm-L (http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&q=1914) and you'll find a lot of answers. HTH Thomas Rupp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gopinathan, Srinath Gesendet: Freitag, 29. September 2006 07:47 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: [ADSM-L] Recurring error Hi, I have the next error every night... ANE4993E (Session: 217053, Node: GBCWBLEIPSF3-SQL) TDP MSSQL ACO3002 Data Protection for SQL: log backup of database Pirate_Audit from server GBCWBLEIPSF3 failed, rc = 1914. (SESSION: 217053) 1) What does it mean? 2) What corrective action needs to be taken? Regards, Srinath G This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies.
Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Recurring error
Hi, Can you help me in getting a doc containing a list of return codes and their explanations. Regards, Srinath G -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Rupp Sent: 29 September 2006 07:13 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Recurring error Go to the Achive of adsm-L (http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&q=1914) and you'll find a lot of answers. HTH Thomas Rupp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gopinathan, Srinath Gesendet: Freitag, 29. September 2006 07:47 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: [ADSM-L] Recurring error Hi, I have the next error every night... ANE4993E (Session: 217053, Node: GBCWBLEIPSF3-SQL) TDP MSSQL ACO3002 Data Protection for SQL: log backup of database Pirate_Audit from server GBCWBLEIPSF3 failed, rc = 1914. (SESSION: 217053) 1) What does it mean? 2) What corrective action needs to be taken? Regards, Srinath G This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the Cable & Wireless e-mail security system - powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive managed e-mail security service, visit http://www.cw.com/uk/emailprotection/ The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. It is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not named above as a recipient, you must not read, copy, disclose, forward or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender (whose contact details are above) immediately by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies.
