Concurrent primary and copy pool backup

[Levi, Ralph]

I remember reading about being able to do backups to a primary and copy
storage pool concurrently but I can't find this info anymore.  Is anyone
doing this ?  Can you please point me to the manual / command to set
this up.  I am running TSM 5.2.6 (AIX) with 5.2 and 5.3 clients (AIX,
Windows and HP-UX).

Thanks (and hope everyone had a happy and safe New Year).
Ralph

Re: Concurrent primary and copy pool backup

[Choudarapu, Ramakrishna (GTI)]

Please refer to COPYSTGPOOLS option in HELP UPDATE STGPOOL.

Regards,
Ramakrishna Choudarapu





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Subject: [ADSM-L] Concurrent primary and copy pool backup


I remember reading about being able to do backups to a primary and copy
storage pool concurrently but I can't find this info anymore.  Is anyone
doing this ?  Can you please point me to the manual / command to set
this up.  I am running TSM 5.2.6 (AIX) with 5.2 and 5.3 clients (AIX,
Windows and HP-UX).

Thanks (and hope everyone had a happy and safe New Year).
Ralph


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Re: Concurrent primary and copy pool backup

[Cory Heikel]

When you define or update your stgpool use the
COPYSTGpools--=copypoolname option. For the syntax just type help
update stgpool at the command line.

The documentation says it works with both random and sequential access
methods, but i have never been able to get it to work on random.

cory



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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 8:12:49 AM >>>

I remember reading about being able to do backups to a primary and
copy
storage pool concurrently but I can't find this info anymore.  Is
anyone
doing this ?  Can you please point me to the manual / command to set
this up.  I am running TSM 5.2.6 (AIX) with 5.2 and 5.3 clients (AIX,
Windows and HP-UX).

Thanks (and hope everyone had a happy and safe New Year).
Ralph

Backup is doing a full when a differential is specified: Help! Very perplexed!

[Joni Moyer]

Hello everyone!

I am trying to backup our NAS CX704G with NDMP backups on our TSM server
5.2.4.0 on AIX 5.2.  As you can see the command states that it should be a
differential backup, but when it begins the backup process it is actually
doing a full.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why this might
be occurring?  I can't seem to find any messages stating the change from
differential to full or a why?  Thank you in advance for any help you might
be able to provide!

01/03/06 21:49:49 ANR2017I Administrator LID3QE9 issued command: BACKUP
NODE
   nas_server_2_offsite /root_vdm_4/HMCH1015_E
mgmtclass=na-
   s_offsite mode=differential toc=preferred  (SESSION:

   25635, PROCESS: 655)

01/03/06 21:49:50 ANR0984I Process 656 for BACKUP NAS (FULL) started in
the
   BACKGROUND at 21:49:50. (SESSION: 25635, PROCESS:
656)
01/03/06 21:49:50 ANR1063I Full backup of NAS node
NAS_SERVER_2_OFFSITE,
   file system /root_vdm_4/HMCH1015_E, started as
process
   656 by administrator LID3QE9. (SESSION: 25635,
PROCESS:
   656)

01/03/06 21:49:50 ANR2753I (NAS_2-DIFFERENTIAL):ANR1063I Full backup of
NAS
   node (SESSION: 25635)

01/03/06 21:49:50 ANR2753I (NAS_2-DIFFERENTIAL):NAS_SERVER_2_OFFSITE,
file
   system (SESSION: 25635)

01/03/06 21:49:50 ANR2753I (NAS_2-DIFFERENTIAL):/root_vdm_4/HMCH1015_E,

   started as (SESSION: 25635)

01/03/06 21:49:50 ANR2753I (NAS_2-DIFFERENTIAL):process 656 by
administrator
   LID3QE9.  (SESSION: 25635)



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dsmc.nlm module does not show up memory

[Timothy Hughes]

Hello,

I have Novell client that has The DSMCAD screen that shows
"loading dsmc.nlm..." but that module does not show up in
memory. Has anyone seen this problem before?

p.s. Sorry if this is not a tsm problem

TSM server version 5.3.2.1
RS/6000 AIX 5.3
TSM client 5.2.2


Thanks for any help!

Re: Backup is doing a full when a differential is specified: Help! Very perplexed!

[Richard Sims]

On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Joni Moyer wrote:


Hello everyone!

I am trying to backup our NAS CX704G with NDMP backups on our TSM
server
5.2.4.0 on AIX 5.2.  As you can see the command states that it
should be a
differential backup, but when it begins the backup process it is
actually
doing a full.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why
this might
be occurring?  ...


The greatest possibility is per the manual:

"If you choose a differential backup, and a full backup is not found,
a full backup is performed."

There are further words on this in the doc APAR IC42526.

   Richard Sims

Re: Collocation Questions

[Dennis Melburn W IT743]

OK, well that answers a lot of my questions, but is this still the case
when your copy storage pool tapes are usually offsite?  I tried to do a
move nodedata in our test domain for the copy pool and it gave me errors
stating that it could not move the data in the storage pool for that
particular node, because the tapes were "offsite", which they are.  So
will the data in the copy storage pools still collocate over time even
if the tapes are offsite in a vaulting location? 


Mel Dennis
Systems Engineer - IT743
Siemens Power Generation
4400 Alafaya Trail
Orlando, FL 32826
MC Q1-108
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Yes, you can collocate the copy pool and not the primary pool, no
problem.
Yes, it will decrease the number of tapes per node.
However, If you are sending the copy pool tapes offsite with a manual
pull/courier process, it will increase the number of tapes for your
courier run (which is why most sites don't collocate the copy pools).

In TSM 5.3, you can do collocation by a group of nodes.  If you have
just a handfull of very important clients, for example, you could put
them all in the same collocation group, and just collocate those nodes.

As far as doing MOVE NODEDATA, that's up to you.
When you turn collocation on, any newly written output is collocated.
Any old data stays where it is.
So as migration and reclamation occur, the data will gradually, over
time, all get collocated, even if you don't do MOVE NODEDATA.
So the situation will gradually get better by itself, but not
necessarily quickly.
An appropriate strategy might be to do MOVE NODEDATA for your most
critical clients, and leave the less important ones alone.


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Subject: Collocation Questions


I am doing server recovery exercises at all of our sites that have TSM
servers (TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3).  Part of the recovery process is to
recall back tapes in our copy storage pools that belong to the node that
is being recovered.  One of the things I have noticed is that we are not
using collocation at our sites, and because of this, I am having to call
back a large amount of tapes for just one node.  If I turn on
collocation on the copy storage pools, will this decrease the number of
tapes that are used per node?  Do I have to do a move nodedata command
after turning collocation on for collocation to work?  The reason why I
don't want to turn collocation on the primary storage pools is space (we
have a small library at most of the sites) and so I just want the copy
storage pools to be collocated.  Will this work, without having the
primary storage pools collocated as well?
 
 
Mel Dennis 

Tape drive conversion question

[Lee, Gary D.]

Tsm server 5.2.4, solaris 8.
We have an ibm 3494 library containing 4 3590-b drives.
We wish to convert to 3590-e.

Devclass is defined with format=drive.

Can I convert as follows:

1. mark all volumes in use read-only
2. allow scratches to be used as tsm sees fit.
3. do reclamation to move onto E formatted cartridges

Thanks for the help.  If I've missed anything, please advise.


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University
 

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Silent Installation

[LeBlanc, Patricia]

 Anyone have a silent install script that works on windows for
installing TSM Backup client?

Backup Status

[Gill, Geoffrey L.]

At different times during the night Operations verifies the status of
backups using the TSM web interface. For those that have issues, tickets are
routed to those administrators for investigation. With version 5.3 not
having web access what are others using that will allow this late night
ongoing monitoring?



Also here is a question as it relates to how the 5.2 web interface displays
the backup status. For those servers that show "In Progress" some never
revert to Completed. Can anyone explain the reason for this anomaly?



Thanks,



Geoff Gill

TSM Administrator

SAIC M/S-G1b

(858)826-4062

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Missed backups

[Meadows, Andrew]

I have a general question here. 

I have about 150 clients. 
Client info:

Windows 2003 server
Windows 2000 server
Red Hat Linux 3 AS 
AIX 5.1

All running tsm client version 5 or later sending data to a tsm server
on AIX running version 5.3

On a nightly basis I have at least 6 or 7 of these servers that miss
their backups due to the service stopping. Is this common. Do other
people experience these misses or is it something I need to look into on
these servers. For the most part they are not the same server and I have
the schedules spread from 7pm to 12 pm hourly. 

Just wanting to get a general guage of if there is something that I need
to look into that I am doing wrong or if this is a normal and acceptable
level of misses per night. 

Thanks,
Andrew

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Question on combining libraries

[William Boyer]

TSM Server 5.3.2.1 running on AIX 5.3
3584 library (3584CLASS)
3583 library (3583CLASS)

We have 2 libraries (3584 and 3583) each with 4 SCSI LTO-1 drives. We are 
purchasing 6 LTO-3 fibre drives that will be installed in
the 3584 only! The wish is to take the 3583 out of the picture. If after 
swapping out the drives can I just change the 3583CLASS
device class to point to the 3584 library and then I would have 2 device 
classes referring to the same library. Or would I need to
create all new stgpools that reference only the 3584 library? I don't really 
want to do that as all my offsite tapes (100's of 'em!)
use the 3583CLASS.

Bill Boyer
"Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional" - ??

Re: Missed backups

[Troy Frank]

It's definitely not supposed to happen.  I have it happen occassionally
on a lesser scale than what you're describing, and it's almost always
Windows clients.  Some of them I tracked to oddities that occur when you
install the client through rdp session instead of at the console.  Some
of them I still haven't figured out.  They work right 90% of the time,
but for some unknown reason will fail once or twice a month.


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 10:18:46 AM >>>
I have a general question here.

I have about 150 clients.
Client info:

Windows 2003 server
Windows 2000 server
Red Hat Linux 3 AS
AIX 5.1

All running tsm client version 5 or later sending data to a tsm server
on AIX running version 5.3

On a nightly basis I have at least 6 or 7 of these servers that miss
their backups due to the service stopping. Is this common. Do other
people experience these misses or is it something I need to look into
on
these servers. For the most part they are not the same server and I
have
the schedules spread from 7pm to 12 pm hourly.

Just wanting to get a general guage of if there is something that I
need
to look into that I am doing wrong or if this is a normal and
acceptable
level of misses per night.

Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: Silent Installation

[Bruce Lowrie]

Patricia,
Here is one that works for me using a UNC to a network drive, right from the 
book.
msiexec /i "\\servername\distribution\tsm\TSM53\IBM Tivoli Storage Manager 
Client.msi" RebootYesNo="No" REBOOT="Suppress" ALLUSERS=1 
INSTALLDIR="c:\program files\tivoli\tsm" 
ADDLOCAL="BackupArchiveGUI,BackupArchiveWeb,ApiRuntime,AdministrativeCmd,OFS" 
TRANSFORMS=\\servername\distribution\tsm\TSM53\1033.mst /qn /l*v "c:\log.txt"


Now just point yours to a location where you have an extracted copy of the 
client. This is the one for version 5.3 where I suppress the reboot but if you 
upgrading from an older version of the client say 5.1 and it's on a Windows 
2000 server you need to run the windows installer upgrade (run 
instmsiw.exe)first which will need a reboot.

Regards, 

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 Anyone have a silent install script that works on windows for
installing TSM Backup client?

[Fwd: dsmc.nlm module does not show up memory]

[Timothy Hughes]

Just to follow up on my last email there are no errors regarding
DSMC.NLM
in the console.log or on the screen and it does not show up in memory.
the DSMCAD.NLM console screen that shows it is loading DSMC.NLM.


IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Client Acceptor - Built Nov 24 2004 22:41:54
Version 5, Release 3, Level 0.0
Dsmcad is working in   Webclient   Schedule   mode.
ANS3000I HTTP communications available on port 1581.
Command will be executed
in 1 minute.
Time remaining until execution:
Executing scheduled command now.
Loading Module DSMC.NLM

Thanks
--- Begin Message ---

Hello,

I have Novell client that has The DSMCAD screen that shows
"loading dsmc.nlm..." but that module does not show up in
memory. Has anyone seen this problem before?

p.s. Sorry if this is not a tsm problem

TSM server version 5.3.2.1
RS/6000 AIX 5.3
TSM client 5.2.2


Thanks for any help!

--- End Message ---

Re: Backup Status

[Prather, Wanda]

Hi Geoff,

Not sure you mean by "version 5.3 not having web access".

The old admin GUI doesn't work (actually you CAN install the old 5.2
admin GUI now with the special patch if you want, but that will not be
provided in future releases).  But anybody you grant access to can
access the ISC via a browser.
So it's just a matter of retraining to find the info in a different
place.  

The clients we have that show "in progress" are uniformly failures.
The client starts the backup, but dies a peculiar death, or (more
commonly) the scheduler hangs up so that it never reports back to the
server, so the server never reports the change in status.  Now if you
have a client that completes normally, but the server still says "in
progress", that's probably a bug; check the level of the client code,
it's probably old.

Wanda




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Subject: Backup Status


At different times during the night Operations verifies the status of
backups using the TSM web interface. For those that have issues, tickets
are
routed to those administrators for investigation. With version 5.3 not
having web access what are others using that will allow this late night
ongoing monitoring?



Also here is a question as it relates to how the 5.2 web interface
displays
the backup status. For those servers that show "In Progress" some never
revert to Completed. Can anyone explain the reason for this anomaly?



Thanks,



Geoff Gill

TSM Administrator

SAIC M/S-G1b

(858)826-4062

Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tape drive conversion question

[Richard Sims]

On Jan 4, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Lee, Gary D. wrote:


...We have an ibm 3494 library containing 4 3590-b drives.
We wish to convert to 3590-e. ...


Gary - See the TSM 4.1 server Readme file, which addresses
   that older drives conversion procedure in topic
"Support for IBM 3590 Model Exx Tape Drives".

   Richard Sims

Re: Collocation Questions

[David E Ehresman]

>>So will the data in the copy storage pools still collocate over time
even
if the tapes are offsite in a vaulting location? <<

Yes, if you are doing expirations and reclaims.  The reclaims will read
the onsite primary storage volumes to recreate the offsite copy pool
volumes based on the reclaim level you set.

David

Re: Missed backups

[Prather, Wanda]

For Windows clients:

I had a lot of problems with the service stopping using 5.1 TSM clients
on Win2K.
Sometimes it just died, all would die about once a month.  I think at
5.1 there was a known memory leak; got better with 5.2, even better with
the 5.3 client.

What I recommend is setting the Windows properties of the scheduler so
that Windows will restart the service once or twice.
In Control Panel -> Admin tools -> Services, Open Properties of the TSM
Scheduler service, select the Recovery tab.
Set it to restart after the 1st and second failure, do nothing after
subsequent failures, restart fail count after 1 day.

That way if the service dies due to the ever-present slow memory leak,
Windows will restart it automatically.

If they still fail, look at the Windows EVENT log and see if there is
any indication of why, or a Windows error code, and report it to 







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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:19 AM
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Subject: Missed backups


I have a general question here. 

I have about 150 clients. 
Client info:

Windows 2003 server
Windows 2000 server
Red Hat Linux 3 AS 
AIX 5.1

All running tsm client version 5 or later sending data to a tsm server
on AIX running version 5.3

On a nightly basis I have at least 6 or 7 of these servers that miss
their backups due to the service stopping. Is this common. Do other
people experience these misses or is it something I need to look into on
these servers. For the most part they are not the same server and I have
the schedules spread from 7pm to 12 pm hourly. 

Just wanting to get a general guage of if there is something that I need
to look into that I am doing wrong or if this is a normal and acceptable
level of misses per night. 

Thanks,
Andrew

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TSM Server Crashed

[LeBlanc, Patricia]

 Does anyone have any experience with this error:

01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7838S Server operation terminated.
01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7837S Internal error LOGREAD566 detected.

Our TSM server crashed (running on aix) and we had to restore to
yesterday.  Trying to find a cause so we can prevent it from happening
again.

I see info in the knowledge base about extending the log, but the server
crashed and we didn't have that opportunity.

thanks

Re: Backup is doing a full when a differential is specified: Help! Very perplexed!

[Joni Moyer]

Hello,

That's just it.  We just did a full of the filesystem the previous weekend
on 12/25.  We had maintenance, so it was cancelled on 1/2/2005 and then we
should've received differentials after that point in time.  We had the TOC
fill up so on Monday night we couldn't get a differential completed, but I
would've thought that last nights backup should've been a differential.
Especially since it was sent as "mode=differential".  Am I just not seeing
something here?  Or maybe misunderstanding the concept?  Thanks again!


Joni Moyer
Highmark
Storage Systems, Systems Programmer
NEW NUMBER: (717)302-9966
NEW FAX: (717) 302-9826
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On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Joni Moyer wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I am trying to backup our NAS CX704G with NDMP backups on our TSM
> server
> 5.2.4.0 on AIX 5.2.  As you can see the command states that it
> should be a
> differential backup, but when it begins the backup process it is
> actually
> doing a full.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why
> this might
> be occurring?  ...

The greatest possibility is per the manual:

"If you choose a differential backup, and a full backup is not found,
a full backup is performed."

There are further words on this in the doc APAR IC42526.

Richard Sims

Re: TSM Server Crashed

[Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU]

If you go to the IBM TSM portal
(http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html)
and then search using "LOGREAD +ANR7837S" you will see an entry/FAQ that
discusses a corrupt log causing these messages.  It also includes steps to
recover/restore !




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 Does anyone have any experience with this error:

01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7838S Server operation terminated.
01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7837S Internal error LOGREAD566 detected.

Our TSM server crashed (running on aix) and we had to restore to
yesterday.  Trying to find a cause so we can prevent it from happening
again.

I see info in the knowledge base about extending the log, but the server
crashed and we didn't have that opportunity.

thanks

Re: TSM Server Crashed

[Richard Sims]

On Jan 4, 2006, at 11:55 AM, LeBlanc, Patricia wrote:


 Does anyone have any experience with this error:

01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7838S Server operation terminated.
01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7837S Internal error LOGREAD566 detected.

Our TSM server crashed (running on aix) and we had to restore to
yesterday.  Trying to find a cause so we can prevent it from happening
again.

I see info in the knowledge base about extending the log, but the
server
crashed and we didn't have that opportunity.


Look in your AIX Error Log for any file system or disk problems which
may have contributed to the problem, and review the dsmserv.err file.
If nothing obvious, call TSM Support, as this is a rare one with no
ready solution.

   Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs

Number of Directories in file type devclass

[Andrew Carlson]

Is there a limit on the number of directories (filesystems) that can be
put in a file type device class in TSM 5.3?  I looked in the Admin
Reference and Guide, and did not see it mentioned there.  Thanks.

Re: Question on combining libraries

[Prather, Wanda]

HI DUDE!  Happy New Year!

Sounds to me like that will work.  TSM will certainly let you have
multiple devclasses pointing to the same library.

I would just test it - update the devclass, check a cartridge out of
your 3583 library, check it in to the 3584 library, see if you can run
AUDIT.

BUT, I don't see how your offsite tapes are an issue - you're never
going to WRITE to them again on those LTO3 drives.
So won't the appropriate action be to do MOVE DATAs from the 3583 LTO1
carts to the 3584 LTO3 carts?

Or are you planning to keep the LTO1's in the 3584?  In that case you
have to partition the library, anyway?

Wanda


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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:22 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Question on combining libraries


TSM Server 5.3.2.1 running on AIX 5.3
3584 library (3584CLASS)
3583 library (3583CLASS)

We have 2 libraries (3584 and 3583) each with 4 SCSI LTO-1 drives. We
are purchasing 6 LTO-3 fibre drives that will be installed in
the 3584 only! The wish is to take the 3583 out of the picture. If after
swapping out the drives can I just change the 3583CLASS
device class to point to the 3584 library and then I would have 2 device
classes referring to the same library. Or would I need to
create all new stgpools that reference only the 3584 library? I don't
really want to do that as all my offsite tapes (100's of 'em!)
use the 3583CLASS.

Bill Boyer
"Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional" - ??

Re: [Fwd: dsmc.nlm module does not show up memory]

[Troy Frank]

Sounds like the console hung while trying to load the client.  The bad
news is it means you need to reboot the server from the web-admin page,
and you'll probably never know why it happened.  The good news is that
it's usually rare.  We've never had it happen upon loading the tsm
client, but we have occassionally seen it while unloading dsmcad.nlm.
It's not limited to tsm either.  Other nlm's being loaded or unloaded
will occassionally hang the console screen (antivirus is famous for that
around here).  If you've got a second console screen loaded you're ok,
otherwise you just need to reboot the server.   Now if dsmc is
consistently causing this problem on this particular server, that would
be a whole different ball'a'wax.


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 10:33:03 AM >>>


Just to follow up on my last email there are no errors regarding
DSMC.NLM
in the console.log or on the screen and it does not show up in memory.
the DSMCAD.NLM console screen that shows it is loading DSMC.NLM.


IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Client Acceptor - Built Nov 24 2004 22:41:54
Version 5, Release 3, Level 0.0
Dsmcad is working in Webclient Schedule mode.
ANS3000I HTTP communications available on port 1581.
Command will be executed
in 1 minute.
Time remaining until execution:
Executing scheduled command now.
Loading Module DSMC.NLM

Thanks


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Archiving Exchange

[Orin Rehorst]

KVS is said to be good for archiving Exchange, but KVS is part of
Veritas (Symantec).

Any recommendations on archiving Exchange for at a TSM shop?

TIA
Orin Rehorst

Re: Archiving Exchange

[Del Hoobler]

Orin,

IBM has an Exchange archiving product that uses TSM.
It is called "DB2 CommonStore for Exchange Server". Check it out:

   http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/commonstore/exchange/

Thanks,

Del



"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 01/04/2006
12:11:42 PM:

> KVS is said to be good for archiving Exchange, but KVS is part of
> Veritas (Symantec).
>
> Any recommendations on archiving Exchange for at a TSM shop?
>
> TIA
> Orin Rehorst

Re: Archiving Exchange

[Mike]

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006, Orin Rehorst might have said:

> KVS is said to be good for archiving Exchange, but KVS is part of
> Veritas (Symantec).
>
> Any recommendations on archiving Exchange for at a TSM shop?

My company is using KVS for Exchange. Seems to work ok (I'm not
one of the admins for this part).

Re: Missed backups

[John Monahan]

I've noticed a dramatic increase in reliability/stability in letting the
client acceptor daemon (CAD) control the scheduler.  In many cases you
don't have to restart services every time you make a options file change
with this method either.

The only time I notice missed backups nowadays is when the backup session
abends somehow leaving the status in a hung state and the scheduler service
still started.  Normally, SOP is to go and restart the CAD on all clients
whose backup status is reporting as failed or started (and the backup is no
longer running) and that helps a lot as well.


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I have a general question here.

I have about 150 clients.
Client info:

Windows 2003 server
Windows 2000 server
Red Hat Linux 3 AS
AIX 5.1

All running tsm client version 5 or later sending data to a tsm server
on AIX running version 5.3

On a nightly basis I have at least 6 or 7 of these servers that miss
their backups due to the service stopping. Is this common. Do other
people experience these misses or is it something I need to look into on
these servers. For the most part they are not the same server and I have
the schedules spread from 7pm to 12 pm hourly.

Just wanting to get a general guage of if there is something that I need
to look into that I am doing wrong or if this is a normal and acceptable
level of misses per night.

Thanks,
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Re: Silent Installation

[John Monahan]

The only thing I would add to this is to put this in a batch file where you
can also:
1.  Net stop the existing TSM services (if this is an upgrade install)
before installing the new client
2.  Net start the existing TSM services after the install/upgrade is
finished.
3.  Run the dsmc query sched command (if this is a brand new install) to
prompt/save the TSM node password.
4.  Create and start the services (if this is a brand new install) using
the dsmcutil command.


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Patricia,
Here is one that works for me using a UNC to a network drive, right from
the book.
msiexec /i "\\servername\distribution\tsm\TSM53\IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Client.msi" RebootYesNo="No" REBOOT="Suppress" ALLUSERS=1
INSTALLDIR="c:\program files\tivoli\tsm"
ADDLOCAL="BackupArchiveGUI,BackupArchiveWeb,ApiRuntime,AdministrativeCmd,OFS"
 TRANSFORMS=\\servername\distribution\tsm\TSM53\1033.mst /qn /l*v
"c:\log.txt"


Now just point yours to a location where you have an extracted copy of the
client. This is the one for version 5.3 where I suppress the reboot but if
you upgrading from an older version of the client say 5.1 and it's on a
Windows 2000 server you need to run the windows installer upgrade (run
instmsiw.exe)first which will need a reboot.

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Subject: Silent Installation

 Anyone have a silent install script that works on windows for
installing TSM Backup client?

Generate backupset with manual drive

[Maurice van 't Loo]

Hi All,

I want to generate a backupset to a manual drive.
In the Device Class, i set the mountlimit to 1, that's all i can set about
the number of mountpoints.
But still, if i want to do a generate backupset, i get a messages:

ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued command: GENERATE BACKUPSET
SERVER.EBRO.LOCAL woensdag * DEVCLASS=TAPE RETENTION=6 VOLUMENAMES=woensdag
SCRATCH=NO WAIT=NO
ANR0984I Process 4 for GENERATE BACKUPSET started in the BACKGROUND at
18:50:23.
ANR0609I GENERATE BACKUPSET started as process 4.
ANR3500I Backup set for node SERVER.EBRO.LOCAL as WOENSDAG.119810 being
generated.
ANR3512E GENERATE BACKUPSET: Error encountered in accessing data storage -
insufficient number of mount points available for removable media.
ANR3503E Generation of backup set for SERVER.EBRO.LOCAL as WOENSDAG.119810
failed.
ANR0985I Process 4 for GENERATE BACKUPSET running in the BACKGROUND
completed
with completion state FAILURE at 18:50:23.

Anyone an idea?
The tape is labelled and in the drive.

TSM Server 5.3.2.0 @ Win2003
Device drivers installed.
Tapedrive = "IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Tape Drives" @ HP Ultrium-1
internal SCSI drive.
No storage pools defined.

Generation of backupset to FILE devclass is no problem.

Regards,
Maurice van 't Loo

### I tried also an database backup, same message.

Re: [Fwd: dsmc.nlm module does not show up memory]

[Timothy Hughes]

Thanks Troy!

When you say reboot the server from the web-admin page what
exactly do you mean? Do you just mean a normal reboot
of tha Novell Server.

NW/OS 6.5



Troy Frank wrote:

> Sounds like the console hung while trying to load the client.  The bad
> news is it means you need to reboot the server from the web-admin page,
> and you'll probably never know why it happened.  The good news is that
> it's usually rare.  We've never had it happen upon loading the tsm
> client, but we have occassionally seen it while unloading dsmcad.nlm.
> It's not limited to tsm either.  Other nlm's being loaded or unloaded
> will occassionally hang the console screen (antivirus is famous for that
> around here).  If you've got a second console screen loaded you're ok,
> otherwise you just need to reboot the server.   Now if dsmc is
> consistently causing this problem on this particular server, that would
> be a whole different ball'a'wax.
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 10:33:03 AM >>>
>
> Just to follow up on my last email there are no errors regarding
> DSMC.NLM
> in the console.log or on the screen and it does not show up in memory.
> the DSMCAD.NLM console screen that shows it is loading DSMC.NLM.
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
> Client Acceptor - Built Nov 24 2004 22:41:54
> Version 5, Release 3, Level 0.0
> Dsmcad is working in Webclient Schedule mode.
> ANS3000I HTTP communications available on port 1581.
> Command will be executed
> in 1 minute.
> Time remaining until execution:
> Executing scheduled command now.
> Loading Module DSMC.NLM
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Silent Installation

[David W Litten]

rem stop the netiq services to prevent them from attempting to restart TSM
services before the install is completed.
net stop "NetIQ AppManager Client Communication Manager"
net stop "NetIQ AppManager Client Resource Monitor"

net stop "TSM Scheduler"
net stop "TSM Client Acceptor"

copy "%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsm.opt"
%systemdrive%\

if exist %systemdrive%\util\logs goto skip1
md %systemdrive%\util\logs
:skip1

:fromUNC

call %systemdrive%\smts\perl\bin\perl.exe \\server\unc\TSM\sleep.pl 20
call msiexec /i "\\server\unc\TSM\IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Client.msi"
RebootYesNo="No" REBOOT="ReallySuppress" ALLUSERS=1
INSTALLDIR="%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm"
ADDLOCAL="BackupArchiveGUI,BackupArchiveWeb,ApiRuntime,AdministrativeCmd,Image,Readmes"
 TRANSFORMS=1033.mst /qn /l*v "%systemdrive%\util\logs\TSM.log"

rem call regini.exe \\server\unc\TSM\TSMApiPath.ini

if not exist "%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsm.opt" copy
%systemdrive%\dsm.opt "%systemdrive%\program
files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsm.opt"
if not exist "%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsm.opt" copy
"\\server\unc\TSM\program files\tivoli\tsm\config\dsm.opt"
"%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsm.opt"
notepad "%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsm.opt"
pause
call \\server\unc\TSM\InstallClientAcceptor.bat
pause
call \\server\unc\TSM\InstallTSMScheduler.bat
pause
net start "TSM Client Acceptor"
pause
net start "TSM Scheduler"
copy \\server\unc\TSM\version5229.txt "%systemdrive%\program
files\tivoli\tsm\baclient"


:end
net start "NetIQ AppManager Client Communication Manager"
net start "NetIQ AppManager Client Resource Monitor"
if not exist "%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\api\dscameng.txt" goto
skip2
copy "%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\api\dscameng.txt"
"%systemdrive%\program files\tivoli\tsm"

:skip2


   
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The only thing I would add to this is to put this in a batch file where you
can also:
1.  Net stop the existing TSM services (if this is an upgrade install)
before installing the new client
2.  Net start the existing TSM services after the install/upgrade is
finished.
3.  Run the dsmc query sched command (if this is a brand new install) to
prompt/save the TSM node password.
4.  Create and start the services (if this is a brand new install) using
the dsmcutil command.


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Patricia,
Here is one that works for me using a UNC to a network drive, right from
the book.
msiexec /i "\\servername\distribution\

Re: Generate backupset with manual drive

[Richard Sims]

On Jan 4, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Maurice van 't Loo wrote:


I want to generate a backupset to a manual drive.
In the Device Class, i set the mountlimit to 1, that's all i can
set about
the number of mountpoints.
But still, if i want to do a generate backupset, i get a messages:

...
ANR3512E GENERATE BACKUPSET: Error encountered in accessing data
storage -
insufficient number of mount points available for removable media. ...


In most scenarios, two mount points are needed, where the source and
destination are both removable media.

  Richard Sims

Re: [Fwd: dsmc.nlm module does not show up memory]

[Troy Frank]

you can reboot a netware server from it's web-administration page
(http://servername:8008).  It looks a little different depending on what
version of netware you're running, but it's always a link somewhere
along the left-hand margin.  Lets you down/restart the server even when
the console is locked up (usually).




>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 12:14:16 PM >>>
Thanks Troy!

When you say reboot the server from the web-admin page what
exactly do you mean? Do you just mean a normal reboot
of tha Novell Server.

NW/OS 6.5



Troy Frank wrote:

> Sounds like the console hung while trying to load the client. The
bad
> news is it means you need to reboot the server from the web-admin
page,
> and you'll probably never know why it happened. The good news is
that
> it's usually rare. We've never had it happen upon loading the tsm
> client, but we have occassionally seen it while unloading
dsmcad.nlm.
> It's not limited to tsm either. Other nlm's being loaded or unloaded
> will occassionally hang the console screen (antivirus is famous for
that
> around here). If you've got a second console screen loaded you're
ok,
> otherwise you just need to reboot the server. Now if dsmc is
> consistently causing this problem on this particular server, that
would
> be a whole different ball'a'wax.
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 10:33:03 AM >>>
>
> Just to follow up on my last email there are no errors regarding
> DSMC.NLM
> in the console.log or on the screen and it does not show up in
memory.
> the DSMCAD.NLM console screen that shows it is loading DSMC.NLM.
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
> Client Acceptor - Built Nov 24 2004 22:41:54
> Version 5, Release 3, Level 0.0
> Dsmcad is working in Webclient Schedule mode.
> ANS3000I HTTP communications available on port 1581.
> Command will be executed
> in 1 minute.
> Time remaining until execution:
> Executing scheduled command now.
> Loading Module DSMC.NLM
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Generate backupset with manual drive

[Maurice van 't Loo]

> On Jan 4, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Maurice van 't Loo wrote:
>
> > I want to generate a backupset to a manual drive.
> > In the Device Class, i set the mountlimit to 1, that's all
> i can set
> > about the number of mountpoints.
> > But still, if i want to do a generate backupset, i get a messages:
> >
> > ...
> > ANR3512E GENERATE BACKUPSET: Error encountered in accessing data
> > storage - insufficient number of mount points available for
> removable
> > media. ...
>
> In most scenarios, two mount points are needed, where the
> source and destination are both removable media.
>
>Richard Sims

The source is devclass FILE with a mount limit of 32.
The destination is a manual LTO drive, so with a mount limit of 1.

If i generate a backupset with as sourse and destination FILE, there is no
problem.

If i do a DB Backup to the manual drive, there is the same ANR3512E error
message.

I just made a Copy STGpool with this manual drive, and also not possible to
backup the primairy pool:
ANR1217E BACKUP STGPOOL: Process 7 terminated - insufficient number of mount
points available for removable media.

The only place where i can set the mountpoint is in the Devclass, and that's
on 1...

Any more idea's?

Thanks in advance,
Maurice van 't Loo

Re: TSM Server Crashed

[Paul Zarnowski]

Coincidentally, we just had the same thing happen to us, tho in our
case we have a good idea what caused it: a power problem which took
down some of our SAN paths and our server.

If you have mirrored log volumes, you can try bringing up the server
using MIRRORREAD LOG VERIFY.  This saved us from having to restore
our database.

..Paul

At 12:03 PM 1/4/2006, Richard Sims wrote:

On Jan 4, 2006, at 11:55 AM, LeBlanc, Patricia wrote:


 Does anyone have any experience with this error:

01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7838S Server operation terminated.
01/04/2006 05:33:29  ANR7837S Internal error LOGREAD566 detected.

Our TSM server crashed (running on aix) and we had to restore to
yesterday.  Trying to find a cause so we can prevent it from happening
again.

I see info in the knowledge base about extending the log, but the
server
crashed and we didn't have that opportunity.


Look in your AIX Error Log for any file system or disk problems which
may have contributed to the problem, and review the dsmserv.err file.
If nothing obvious, call TSM Support, as this is a rare one with no
ready solution.

   Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs



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Re: [Fwd: dsmc.nlm module does not show up memory]

[Timothy Hughes]

Troy Thanks again!

I will have the Netware Admins try this.


Troy Frank wrote:

>  you can reboot a netware server from it's web-administration page
> (http://servername:8008).  It looks a little different depending on
> what version of netware you're running, but it's always a link
> somewhere along the left-hand margin.  Lets you down/restart the
> server even when the console is locked up (usually).
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 12:14:16 PM >>>
> Thanks Troy!
>
> When you say reboot the server from the web-admin page what
> exactly do you mean? Do you just mean a normal reboot
> of tha Novell Server.
>
> NW/OS 6.5
>
>
>
> Troy Frank wrote:
>
> > Sounds like the console hung while trying to load the client. The
> bad
> > news is it means you need to reboot the server from the web-admin
> page,
> > and you'll probably never know why it happened. The good news is
> that
> > it's usually rare. We've never had it happen upon loading the tsm
> > client, but we have occassionally seen it while unloading
> dsmcad.nlm.
> > It's not limited to tsm either. Other nlm's being loaded or unloaded
>
> > will occassionally hang the console screen (antivirus is famous for
> that
> > around here). If you've got a second console screen loaded you're
> ok,
> > otherwise you just need to reboot the server. Now if dsmc is
> > consistently causing this problem on this particular server, that
> would
> > be a whole different ball'a'wax.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/4/2006 10:33:03 AM >>>
> >
> > Just to follow up on my last email there are no errors regarding
> > DSMC.NLM
> > in the console.log or on the screen and it does not show up in
> memory.
> > the DSMCAD.NLM console screen that shows it is loading DSMC.NLM.
> >
> > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
> > Client Acceptor - Built Nov 24 2004 22:41:54
> > Version 5, Release 3, Level 0.0
> > Dsmcad is working in Webclient Schedule mode.
> > ANS3000I HTTP communications available on port 1581.
> > Command will be executed
> > in 1 minute.
> > Time remaining until execution:
> > Executing scheduled command now.
> > Loading Module DSMC.NLM
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice follows:
> >
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Re: Missed backups

[Richard Sims]

On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, John Monahan wrote:


I've noticed a dramatic increase in reliability/stability in
letting the
client acceptor daemon (CAD) control the scheduler.  In many cases you
don't have to restart services every time you make a options file
change
with this method either. ...


Use of CAD is a great idea for avoiding client memory issues, and
general overhead during the great period of each day when there is no
scheduled TSM activity.  Be sure that your MANAGEDServices client
option is set to have CAD only manage the Scheduler: you would not
want your Security department to one day run port scans and be
shocked to find a considerable number of Web servers running on
internal systems where they would never expect such to be...and
particularly where those Web servers are running as the all-powerful
"root" rather than safe "nobody".  Remember that CAD can also host
the Web Client, and does so by default.  (Deploy the Web Client
judiciously.)

   Richard Sims

Re: Generate backupset with manual drive

[Richard Sims]

On Jan 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Maurice van 't Loo wrote:


...If i do a DB Backup to the manual drive, there is the same
ANR3512E error
message. ...


Maurice - Thanks for the additional info for the problem context.

There are no APARs that I see related to this...

I would therefore tend to suspect that whereas the static MOUNTLimit
definition is fine, that there may be some issue in the more dynamic
area of Paths and Drives: I would do queries in that area, and check
configuration in general, to assure that there are no outages
(persistent or sporadic) or configuration issues affecting the number
of drives actually available. I would also do Query MOunt, Query
REQuest, Query PRocess, and Query SEssion to assure that nothing had
already reserved the manual drive. A drive where a tape has not been
mounted may certainly look empty and available, but may be held back
for an unfulfilled request. Most of the "insufficient mount points"
we've seen in the past have been due to Path/Drive and reservation
issues.

  Richard Sims

VTL experiences?

[Dearman, Richard]

Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.  I
was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage.  There are
several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
has been in the market longer.

 

Any comment or recommendation appreciated.

 

Thanks


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Re: VTL experiences?

[Victoria Ortepio]

Check Sepaton...We have their VTL installed, also using TSM server

and it's working fine.



Michael Hyatt

Regional Sales Manager

Sepaton

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Regards,



Vicki Ortepio

MCI

Piscataway, NJ



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Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.  I

was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the

current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage.  There are

several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.

My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC

has been in the market longer.







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Re: Missed backups

[Andy Huebner]

We have >1% miss rate on Win2k and higher running 5.2.2.10 agent or
higher.  We use the CAD to manage the scheduler.  Many failures have
been traced to the scheduler hanging on agents lower than 5.2.2.10 (not
saying this one is perfect) so we have standardized on this version for
now.  5.2.4.0 looks promising...

Andy Huebner

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Richard Sims
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Missed backups

On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, John Monahan wrote:

> I've noticed a dramatic increase in reliability/stability in
> letting the
> client acceptor daemon (CAD) control the scheduler.  In many cases you
> don't have to restart services every time you make a options file
> change
> with this method either. ...

Use of CAD is a great idea for avoiding client memory issues, and
general overhead during the great period of each day when there is no
scheduled TSM activity.  Be sure that your MANAGEDServices client
option is set to have CAD only manage the Scheduler: you would not
want your Security department to one day run port scans and be
shocked to find a considerable number of Web servers running on
internal systems where they would never expect such to be...and
particularly where those Web servers are running as the all-powerful
"root" rather than safe "nobody".  Remember that CAD can also host
the Web Client, and does so by default.  (Deploy the Web Client
judiciously.)

Richard Sims


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Re: VTL experiences?

[Mcnutt, Larry E.]

We have been using an EMC DL700 for over a year with no service
interruptions.  We use it on a TSM server that is used by our critical
servers as a means to improve the time for restorations.  We plan to expand
the capacity from the current 20TB to the maximum of 53TB and use it for all
our server backups.  We have compression enabled which is giving us almost
double the raw capacity.

Larry McNutt
The Timken Company

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Subject: VTL experiences?

Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.  I
was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage.  There are
several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
has been in the market longer.



Any comment or recommendation appreciated.



Thanks


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JR- backupset file list

[JR Trimark]

Is it possible to list out the files that are in a backupset from the dsmc
program on the client for which the backupset was created?

thanks

Re: VTL experiences?

[TSM_User]

The EMC CDL is running FalconStor software through some kind of license 
agreement between EMC and FalconStor. I really don't know all the specifics of 
this agreement.  FlaconStor has proven to be one of the best if not the best 
VTL software.  Both IBM and STK resold their disk with FalconStor software but 
EMC's inclusion of this Software with their hardware made it an attactive offer 
to its customers.
   
  IBM one up'd EMC by purchasing the FlaconStor source code and that is what is 
used on the TS7510. You will notice that past the first splash screen on either 
the CDL or TS7510 all the rest of the screens look the same.  They are infact 
the same configuration screens you will see if you purchase the FalconStor 
software directly from FalconStore I believe. So if you know how to configure 
an EMC CDL you will be able to configure an IBM TS7510 without any problems.  
The fact that IBM now owns the source code we don't have to rely on a 
partnership between FalconStor and IBM to be maintaned in order for the product 
to be enhanced.
   
  I also believe the IBM SATA disk is beter than EMC PATA disk so what you get 
with the IBM solution is the same software features from a VTL perspective but 
better disk.  I know I'm asking for an argument from someone but the main point 
is that you don't need to worry about how long IBM has had the TS7510 in the 
market because the underlying software that is running had been around for 
quite some time.
   
  
"Dearman, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions. I
was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage. There are
several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
has been in the market longer.



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Re: Admin Center userids

[Larry Peifer]

Add the userid to the iscadmin group.




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How do I give a new Admin Center userid the same level of authority as
iscadmin?

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Re: VTL experiences?

[Allen S. Rout]

>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:42:29 -0600, "Dearman, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> said:

> Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.  I
> was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
> current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage.  There are
> several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
> My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
> has been in the market longer.

Would you be willing to expound on why you'd prefer sticking disk
behind a VTL volume virtualizer, instead of sticking it behind a
DEVCLASS=FILE volume virtualizer?  I would default in the other
direction, so I'm interested in your thinking.


- Allen S. Rout

Primary disk pool volume limit

[Andy Huebner]

Is there or what is the practical limit on the number of disk pool
volumes and the total size of a disk pool?  I am running 5.2.2.4 on AIX
5.1.

Andy Huebner


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Re: VTL experiences?

[Kurt Beyers]

A VTL offers following advantages compared to a TSM file device class :
 
(hardware) compression on the VTL itself
SAN based backups are possible with a VTL
 
regards,
Kurt



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>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:42:29 -0600, "Dearman, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> said:

> Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.  I
> was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
> current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage.  There are
> several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
> My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
> has been in the market longer.

Would you be willing to expound on why you'd prefer sticking disk
behind a VTL volume virtualizer, instead of sticking it behind a
DEVCLASS=FILE volume virtualizer?  I would default in the other
direction, so I'm interested in your thinking.


- Allen S. Rout

Re: VTL experiences?

[TSM_User]

Much of the documentation out there will tell you that the benefit of the VTL 
is the speed. It is true the VTL is very fast. Some of that same documentation 
talks about not turning on the virtual compression because it will slow the 
speed. I've seen in cut the speed in half.
  But...
  I've seen a VTL with Virtualized compression turned on still operate as fast 
as real tape.  I make this point because I think you should use the virtualized 
compression. This way the same 5 TB's of disk space you were using for your 
file device class might yield 10 to 15 TB's or more of backup space under the 
VTL.  True you could turn on client side compression. But, I like the 
compression being done on the back end so that there is no stress put on the 
servers that are backing up themselves.
   
  One thing I should also clear up. In my last post I mentioned IBM with SATA 
disk. I got a friendly reminder from EMC that the CDL's have been shipping with 
SATA disk since this past November.
   
  That also reminded me that the IBM VTL called the TS7510 is using the IBM DS 
line of disk which has been out for some time now.  I remember EMC making the 
same note when it first came out with the CDL. See the disk subsystem's under 
both the IBM and EMC VTLs have been out for some time.  So just like EMC 
correctly noted when the CDL first came out you should note today about the IBM 
TS7510.  They really are not new products when it comes to the disk subsystem.  
In both cases you could choose to purchase the disk subsystems used by the VTLs 
directly from either IBM or EMC and use them with a file device class.  Granted 
I realize that both EMC and IBM have a specific configuration of their disk 
subsystems that they put under their VTLs. 
   
  In my own experience I've used a file device class with TSM V5.2 and earlier 
and an EMC CDL. I liked the CDL a great deal.  We had the same class of EMC 
disk behind a clarion setup to use a file device class.  The same amount of 
disk behind the CDL performed better.  I believe part of the reason is the 
logic in the FalconStor software. It uses disk for its virtual tapes in 5 GB 
increments and uses logic to ensure it picks the least busy disk for the next 5 
GB that is used.
   
  I know with V5.3 giving you the ability to write to multiple filespaces which 
could be on multiple LUNS gives you something over V5.2.  I still think that 
cycling through separate LUNS though isn't as good as the way the VTL allocates 
in 5 GB chunks across many more LUNS.  FalconStor may have a white paper on how 
they do it but I would encourage you to ask your vendor who ever it is to come 
on site and discuss this with you in greater detail.
   
  Whether you pick a VTL from EMC or IBM (or someone else for that matter), or 
you pick a disk subsystem with the file device class you must test yourself to 
see what will work best in your environment.  I make no claim that a VTL is for 
everyone or that it will outperform real tape in every situation.  I simply 
think it should be one of the things you strongly consider.  More and  more of 
us are seeing the benefit of moving small files off tape to disk but we may 
have been seeing 2:1 or 3:1 compression with those small files on tape. A 1:1 
of disk can be costly but when you use virtualized hardware compression behind 
a CDL it may make things more cost effective if you get 2:1 or 3:1 for small 
files.
   
  

"Allen S. Rout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:42:29 -0600, "Dearman, Richard" said:

> Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions. I
> was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
> current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage. There are
> several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
> My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
> has been in the market longer.

Would you be willing to expound on why you'd prefer sticking disk
behind a VTL volume virtualizer, instead of sticking it behind a
DEVCLASS=FILE volume virtualizer? I would default in the other
direction, so I'm interested in your thinking.


- Allen S. Rout
  



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Antwort: Re: [ADSM-L] Missed backups

[Dierk Harbort]

Hi,

we run TSM 5.2.x on SUSE Linux SLES8 an SUSE 9.2 - the deamon likes to die,
it is common. Our hardware admins solved this problem with an automated
restart of dsmcad.

Regards, Dierk




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I've noticed a dramatic increase in reliability/stability in letting the
client acceptor daemon (CAD) control the scheduler.  In many cases you
don't have to restart services every time you make a options file change
with this method either.

The only time I notice missed backups nowadays is when the backup session
abends somehow leaving the status in a hung state and the scheduler service
still started.  Normally, SOP is to go and restart the CAD on all clients
whose backup status is reporting as failed or started (and the backup is no
longer running) and that helps a lot as well.


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Senior Consultant Enterprise Solutions
Computech Resources, Inc.
Office: 952-833-0930 ext 109
Cell: 952-221-6938
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I have a general question here.

I have about 150 clients.
Client info:

Windows 2003 server
Windows 2000 server
Red Hat Linux 3 AS
AIX 5.1

All running tsm client version 5 or later sending data to a tsm server
on AIX running version 5.3

On a nightly basis I have at least 6 or 7 of these servers that miss
their backups due to the service stopping. Is this common. Do other
people experience these misses or is it something I need to look into on
these servers. For the most part they are not the same server and I have
the schedules spread from 7pm to 12 pm hourly.

Just wanting to get a general guage of if there is something that I need
to look into that I am doing wrong or if this is a normal and acceptable
level of misses per night.

Thanks,
Andrew

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