[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Fabian Groffen wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> > Steve Long wrote: >> > > Unless someone can say what using PROPERTIES=prefix would break, I'd >> > > go with that. It's a /classic/ usage of that variable, as it's simply >> > > a boolean; PROPERTIES is well-defined

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: > Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if > you try this at home): A big gain in the context of ebuilds and source packages. Well done. - ferdy pgprSLpWrpb0H.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Markus Meier
server16 logrotate 10 gsm 9 custom-cflags 9 kontact 8 openmp8 plasma7 html 7 demo 7 smp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 Markus Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > server16 Already been discussed, can't be done. > logrotate 10 Already been discussed. Will no doubt descend into the same long argument that happens every time this comes up.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilize ebuilds which use EAPIs only supported by ~arch PMs

2008-10-15 Thread Santiago M. Mola
El mar, 14-10-2008 a las 18:24 -0700, Alec Warner escribió: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > > There's no need to commit straight to stable. Just make two different > > new revisions for each EAPI. Then the arch teams can test it like usual. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread David Leverton
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 10:33:22 Steve Long wrote: > Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if > you try this at home): > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo "$( #!/bin/bash > P='some-crap/god-i-hate-asshats' I do hope that that isn't directed at anyone in particular.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: bzr.eclass into Portage

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Monday 13 October 2008 04:43:48 Steve Long wrote: >> EBZR_OPTIONS="${EBZR_OPTIONS:-}" (and similar variants) >> doesn't do anything (beyond waste lex and yacc time.) > > It gets listed in the generated man page. > >From what I remember of the awk that generates thos

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilize ebuilds which use EAPIs only supported by ~arch PMs

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Alec Warner wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> There's no need to commit straight to stable. Just make two different >> new revisions for each EAPI. Then the arch teams can test it like usual. > > Aha a perfect canidate use case for GLEP 55[1] that fends off 'why are > there multiple versions of the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Steve Long wrote: >>> insinto /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples >> Is there any chance we can start using correctly quoted filenames across >> the board? > > Since when is ${P} allowed to have spaces? > I believe I answered this in my prior post. >> Besides being faster (quote th

[gentoo-dev] Re: System packages in (R)DEPEND?

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Peter Volkov wrote: > Jeremy Olexa ?: >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >> > Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some >> > packages, because they could be removed? If yes, which ones? Or should >> > we leave the system packages out completly? >> >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Fernando J. Pereda wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times >> if you try this at home): > > A big gain in the context of ebuilds and source packages. Well done. > Yes, almost as important as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:28:43 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fernando J. Pereda wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: > >> Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker > >> times if you try this at home): > > > > A big gain in th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
David Leverton wrote: > On Wednesday 15 October 2008 10:33:22 Steve Long wrote: >> Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times >> if you try this at home): >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo "$(> #!/bin/bash >> P='some-crap/god-i-hate-asshats' > > I do hope that that isn't

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 > Markus Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> server16 > > Already been discussed, can't be done. > What does it break?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:51:32 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each > > iteration? > > > Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the first iteration in general, btw.) 18% of nothing is nothing. > perhaps you're just feeling defensive ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:53:14 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 > > Markus Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> server16 > > > > Already been discussed, can't be done. > > > What does it break? Have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:51:32PM +0100, Ranjit Singh wrote: > > This is a purely stylistic issue, same as the braces with variable > > expansions. > See my other posts. Your other posts only show that this is, indeed, a personal stylistic issue. And a pointless one, too. - ferdy pgpY8zl8tdvK

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:43:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Utterly illegal, needs to die. Why? I don't agree that it needs to be the global useflags, but I don't consider it illegal either. It's defined by toolchain.eclass and toolchain-binutils.eclass, and deliberately in a very careful m

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:47:06 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:43:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Utterly illegal, needs to die. > > Why? I don't agree that it needs to be the global useflags, but I > don't consider it illegal either. It's ille

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:19:27 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:47:06 -0700 > "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:43:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > Utterly illegal, needs to die. > > > > Why? I don't agree th

USE=multislot, xDEPEND-syntax in SLOT and Slot dependencies [Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags]

2008-10-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I'm deliberately starting a new thread here, because this is meandering well off the original topic of the global useflag proposals. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 02:18:16AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > There are also other issues, e.g. it breaks the generation of the > @installed package set as the ins

Re: USE=multislot, xDEPEND-syntax in SLOT and Slot dependencies [Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags]

2008-10-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:20:32 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ignoring Vapier's tirade against ciaranm there, we need the > xDEPEND-syntax for SLOTS as the real solution, however that still > wouldn't resolve the portion that has CTARGET as part of the SLOT, > since metadata g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Arun Raghavan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Long wrote: [...] >>> for ((i=0;i<10;i++)); do echo /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples > >>> /dev/null; >>> real 11.25 >>> real 9.24 >> So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration? >> > Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 15/10/2008 в 20:51 +0100, Steve Long пишет: > >> for ((i=0;i<10;i++)); do echo /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples > > >> /dev/null; > > > >> real 11.25 > > > >> real 9.24 > > > > So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration? > > > Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the