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From: "Jan Waclawek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Sdcc-user] Quickstart document,was: Virus in 
SDCC-2.8.0-setup.exe - MD5 etc tutorial


> Richard,
>
>>Maybe a few words would be helpful about what makes one editor more
>>"suitable" than another, or what might make it less-suitable.  A few
>>suggestions as to "convenient" features might be helpful in this context,
>>too.
>
> Well, this is not really SDCC-specific...
>
> I don't feel competent to answer this question either - as a notorious 
> C-hater I don't use advanced function-header-collecting and similar 
> functions of the "fat" IDEs. All I need is basic code indenting, decent 
> syntax highlighting, ability to run external programs (i.e. upon F9 to run 
> the compiler or a "script" (batch) of compiler-downloader) and good 
> searching/bookmarking (unfortunately the latter is rare); and a fair price 
> (recently, this has shrinked to the ultimate $0, as there are quite a lot 
> of enthusiasts around writing this sort of stuff). Some examples are 
> Notepad++, Programmer's Notepad, PSPad, and my favourite (although a bit 
> strange and unfortunately mostly abandoned) is Crimson Editor (it's the 
> only one I know which supports 2 language syntax highlight - e.g. C and 
> asm - in a single file). An interesting option may be setedit, which is 
> multi-platform and deliberately Borland-like; but also slightly different 
> than the others, being text-based.
>
Since MCU's don't use big programs, I'm not a HLL-lover either.  What I want 
from an IDE is an easy way to move back and forth between editor, assembler, 
compiler, debugger, etc.   All I want from the compiler is to be able to use 
the same high-level code for doing data manipulations whether the MCU is a 
PIC or an 'HC08, or whatever, including, of course, the 805x core.
>
>>The output includes an ASM file, right?
>>What else should I look for?
>
> It's maybe not quite straighforwardly asm (and the assembler's syntax is 
> non-intel-ish), but it's there, if you use the --debug switch.
>
> Under W9x, for me it was a challenge to find the --use-stdout switch as 
> the "dosbox" there has no "scrollback" feature, and without this switch 
> it's impossible to redirect the output into a file. This is not an issue 
> under WXP as you can scroll back the "dosbox".
>
Couldn't you simply redirect the output from one program to a file, then use 
that file as input to the next program?  I do this sort of thing all the 
time using batch files with the old DOS-based OrCAD products.  I know that 
PALASM does it, too.
>
> But, basically, that's it. Try. Enjoy.
>
> Jan
>
>
>
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