I will have her do this and let you know if it works. If it doesn't, I will 
raise a ticket as indicated earlier. THANK YOU!!

On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 9:26:05 AM UTC-4 Marc Culler wrote:

> Please also have her remove the directory:
> ~/Library/Application\ Support/SageMath-10-3/Jupyter
>
> I misstated where the Jupyter runtime directory is located for the current 
> 10.3 app, and this is also different from the directory that Dima 
> mentioned, which was used by 10.2 and earlier.
>
> When the SageMath-10.3  jupyter kernel starts up it creates files in its 
> runtime directory describing how to connect to the kernel.  When the 
> SageMath app shuts down it sends a TERM signal to the kernel process it 
> started.  When that kernel process receives the signal it removes the files 
> it created.  Sometimes it can happen that a kernel is killed in a way, 
> which prevents it from removing its runtime files.  This can cause a later 
> invocation of jupyter to try connecting to a non-existent kernel or to use 
> an invalid token when connecting to an existing kernel.
>
> - Marc
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 11:31:38 PM UTC-5 S Benton wrote:
>
>> An enormous and sincere thank you to all of you! I will make sure her mac 
>> os is updated and have her remove the above directories/files.  Hopefully 
>> that will do the trick, but if not I will open an issue at github. And yes 
>> - she tried Cocalc and it got her able to submit her assignment tonight, at 
>> least!
>>
>> Thank you again!!!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 6:58:30 PM UTC-4 Marc Culler wrote:
>>
>>> The 10.3 version of the app uses the standard location for Jupyter 
>>> runtime files: ~/Library/Jupyter
>>>
>>> - Marc
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 5:08:43 PM UTC-5 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>
>>>> PS. From what I see on 
>>>> https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/issues/28 
>>>> I gather you might try to remove (or better, rename, to be on the safe 
>>>> side) the folders 
>>>>
>>>> ~/Library/Application Support/SageMath/*/Jupyter 
>>>>
>>>> in other to be able to start Jupyter again. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:57 PM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:29 PM S Benton <brent...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > We are not using the app. She downloaded SageMath-10.3_arm64.dmg 
>>>> from github., double clicked the executable and followed the installation 
>>>> instructions. To launch, she clicks the SageMath-10-3 icon along the 
>>>> bottom 
>>>> of her mac. This gives her the option to open Jupyter Notebook, which she 
>>>> does, using the SageMath kernel. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > OK. What macOS version do you run? 
>>>> > Do you have all the updates installed ? (you should) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > She has a 3 year old mac and I'm wondering if it just doesn't have 
>>>> the processing power it needs to do these more intensive mathematical 
>>>> computations. (plus she probably has other stuff up on her computer) So 
>>>> when Jupyter Lab konks out, she is unable to restart it. Even if she 
>>>> reboots her computer, when she tries to relaunch from the SageMath icon, 
>>>> she gets the Local host Error connection refused. She looks in Activity 
>>>> Monitor and says she has killed all of the python processes, but still 
>>>> cannot launch SageMath. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > it's most probably a stale "lock" file, just a file created by a 
>>>> > process to indicate that it's running; such a file is cleaned on a 
>>>> > normal exit, 
>>>> > but not in case of a crash. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I must say I don't know much about this app, I'll cc to one of the 
>>>> authors. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Marc, could you have a look? 
>>>> > 
>>>> > The app has a dedicated issue tracker: 
>>>> > https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/issues 
>>>> > it might be better to report there. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > The last time this happened we removed and then reinstalled 
>>>> SageMath. But that's a tough way to keep things moving. I'm wondering if 
>>>> when Jupyter Lab dies, if there are files that live on and make it so that 
>>>> she cannot relaunch. We have not been able to find, or just lack the 
>>>> skills 
>>>> to find, where any of these files might be located. I tried to run 
>>>> "jupyter" commands from the terminal, but they come back as unknown and 
>>>> searching through "finder" on the mac is not getting us anywhere. 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Short of buying a new computer or continuing to reinstall SageMath, 
>>>> I'm wondering if there is a simpler of way of getting things up and 
>>>> running 
>>>> again for her. 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > Certainly a 3 y.o. machine is more than enough to run Sage, it's some 
>>>> > kind of software glitch, I suppose. 
>>>> > I'm running Sage (and writing this email from a 7 y.o. machine just 
>>>> fine). 
>>>> > 
>>>> > A quick way to run Sage is to use https://cocalc.com 
>>>> > (you can upload Jupyter notebooks there to run; you can even use it 
>>>> for free, 
>>>> > but to make it run better you'd need to pay something like $7 per 
>>>> month) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > There are several other ways to run Sage locally on your mac, 
>>>> > but let's try things in turn first. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hope this helps, 
>>>> > Dima 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > Thank you so much for responding. It is deeply appreciated. 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 4:05:17 PM UTC-4 Dima Pasechnik 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Hi, 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> please tell us more about the Sage version, and how you installed 
>>>> it, and how you launch the notebook. 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Do you use the Sagemath macOS app? 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Dima 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> On 23 April 2024 20:05:12 BST, S Benton <brent...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> Hi - at my wit's end here - my daughter is trying to use Sage 
>>>> Math Jupyter Notebook for her college coursework. She has had problems 
>>>> where if Notebook crashes, she is unable to relaunch it - she gets a 
>>>> "connection refused" error and it mentions Local Host 8888. Last time, we 
>>>> reinstalled everything and she was able to get up and running again. 
>>>> However, this keeps happening. 
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> I am wondering if - when Notebook crashes - if there are still 
>>>> processes running out there that are preventing her from relaunching a new 
>>>> instance of Notebook. She is on a mac, and I'm trying to find the commands 
>>>> or directories where these processes or files might stored so that I can 
>>>> remove them. 
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> I am not able to use any of the "Jupyter" commands from the mac 
>>>> command line to see what is running. Does anyone have any help they can 
>>>> offer on why this might be happening and how i can get her up and running 
>>>> again? 
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> Many thanks 
>>>> > > 
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