An enormous and sincere thank you to all of you! I will make sure her mac 
os is updated and have her remove the above directories/files.  Hopefully 
that will do the trick, but if not I will open an issue at github. And yes 
- she tried Cocalc and it got her able to submit her assignment tonight, at 
least!

Thank you again!!!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 6:58:30 PM UTC-4 Marc Culler wrote:

> The 10.3 version of the app uses the standard location for Jupyter runtime 
> files: ~/Library/Jupyter
>
> - Marc
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 5:08:43 PM UTC-5 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>> PS. From what I see on 
>> https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/issues/28 
>> I gather you might try to remove (or better, rename, to be on the safe 
>> side) the folders 
>>
>> ~/Library/Application Support/SageMath/*/Jupyter 
>>
>> in other to be able to start Jupyter again. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:57 PM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:29 PM S Benton <brent...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > We are not using the app. She downloaded SageMath-10.3_arm64.dmg from 
>> github., double clicked the executable and followed the installation 
>> instructions. To launch, she clicks the SageMath-10-3 icon along the bottom 
>> of her mac. This gives her the option to open Jupyter Notebook, which she 
>> does, using the SageMath kernel. 
>> > 
>> > OK. What macOS version do you run? 
>> > Do you have all the updates installed ? (you should) 
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > She has a 3 year old mac and I'm wondering if it just doesn't have 
>> the processing power it needs to do these more intensive mathematical 
>> computations. (plus she probably has other stuff up on her computer) So 
>> when Jupyter Lab konks out, she is unable to restart it. Even if she 
>> reboots her computer, when she tries to relaunch from the SageMath icon, 
>> she gets the Local host Error connection refused. She looks in Activity 
>> Monitor and says she has killed all of the python processes, but still 
>> cannot launch SageMath. 
>> > 
>> > it's most probably a stale "lock" file, just a file created by a 
>> > process to indicate that it's running; such a file is cleaned on a 
>> > normal exit, 
>> > but not in case of a crash. 
>> > 
>> > I must say I don't know much about this app, I'll cc to one of the 
>> authors. 
>> > 
>> > Marc, could you have a look? 
>> > 
>> > The app has a dedicated issue tracker: 
>> > https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/issues 
>> > it might be better to report there. 
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > The last time this happened we removed and then reinstalled SageMath. 
>> But that's a tough way to keep things moving. I'm wondering if when Jupyter 
>> Lab dies, if there are files that live on and make it so that she cannot 
>> relaunch. We have not been able to find, or just lack the skills to find, 
>> where any of these files might be located. I tried to run "jupyter" 
>> commands from the terminal, but they come back as unknown and searching 
>> through "finder" on the mac is not getting us anywhere. 
>> > > 
>> > > Short of buying a new computer or continuing to reinstall SageMath, 
>> I'm wondering if there is a simpler of way of getting things up and running 
>> again for her. 
>> > > 
>> > Certainly a 3 y.o. machine is more than enough to run Sage, it's some 
>> > kind of software glitch, I suppose. 
>> > I'm running Sage (and writing this email from a 7 y.o. machine just 
>> fine). 
>> > 
>> > A quick way to run Sage is to use https://cocalc.com 
>> > (you can upload Jupyter notebooks there to run; you can even use it for 
>> free, 
>> > but to make it run better you'd need to pay something like $7 per 
>> month) 
>> > 
>> > There are several other ways to run Sage locally on your mac, 
>> > but let's try things in turn first. 
>> > 
>> > Hope this helps, 
>> > Dima 
>> > 
>> > > Thank you so much for responding. It is deeply appreciated. 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 4:05:17 PM UTC-4 Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Hi, 
>> > >> 
>> > >> please tell us more about the Sage version, and how you installed 
>> it, and how you launch the notebook. 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Do you use the Sagemath macOS app? 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Dima 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> On 23 April 2024 20:05:12 BST, S Benton <brent...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> Hi - at my wit's end here - my daughter is trying to use Sage Math 
>> Jupyter Notebook for her college coursework. She has had problems where if 
>> Notebook crashes, she is unable to relaunch it - she gets a "connection 
>> refused" error and it mentions Local Host 8888. Last time, we reinstalled 
>> everything and she was able to get up and running again. However, this 
>> keeps happening. 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> I am wondering if - when Notebook crashes - if there are still 
>> processes running out there that are preventing her from relaunching a new 
>> instance of Notebook. She is on a mac, and I'm trying to find the commands 
>> or directories where these processes or files might stored so that I can 
>> remove them. 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> I am not able to use any of the "Jupyter" commands from the mac 
>> command line to see what is running. Does anyone have any help they can 
>> offer on why this might be happening and how i can get her up and running 
>> again? 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> Many thanks 
>> > > 
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