On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > 2009/12/5 Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu>: >> On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >>> 2009/12/5 Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu>: >>>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >>>> >>>>> just a side remark - IMHO notebooks are not designed for any >>>>> kind of >>>>> large-scope project. >>>> >>>> There's no reason they couldn't be. >>> I meant a project that takes a lot of computing power (CPU/memory/ >>> disk space). >>> I cannot but agree that for designing, e.g. exercises, notebooks are >>> very useful, esp. combined with functionality >>> of sagenb.notebook. >> >> Oh, that's what you mean. Still, I don't see any reason the notebook >> would be worse. I've let things run overnight in the notebook, and >> @parallel works there too. > Judging from what I see posted here, notebooks are not very well > behaved > under extreme circumstances like OS crashes (that might be a result > of running > out of memory, etc).
Well, not even scripts behave well when the OS goes down. > One is tempted to have unsaved cells open, too. > Under a heavy load all this does not play well. > > Also, a nontrivial project has a non-trivial amount of code that one > needs to maintain, > too. One essentially designs a small library. A special notebook > functionality > is needed to handle such a case. > IMHO it's a bit wasteful to implement > such a functionality. After this is done, one has to wait just a bit > to see > requests for Sage notebooks to be able to work as an e-mail client :-) See the email() command :). >> >>>>> For the latter, you are much better off with good old scripts. >>>>> Notebooks certainly have their own pluses, such as more >>>>> interactivity >>>>> and ease of collaboration---but not >>>>> sharing, as was demonstrated here recently. >>>>> Otherwise I don't really see a point of them. >>>> >>>> Ease of use, especially for people on Windows. I think they have >>>> advantages for sharing as well, as I can share a notebook with >>>> someone >>>> by posting it on a public (or personal) server, and they can go and >>>> get an account and use it without having to even install sage. This >>>> could be particularly nice for the classroom setting. >>> I referred to an apparent missing feature of exporting notebook >>> cells >>> into a Sage script. >>> This seems to be locking a user into using worksheets long after >>> it's >>> time to move over to >>> full-blown development with scripts. >> >> True, that would be a nice feature. Clicking on the "text" link is a >> good start. > yes, but still the result of copy/paste into an editor > would require tedious editing (removing "sage:", "....", > proper Python indentation), that gets out of hand, particularly, if > largish data, e.g. relatively big multivariate polynomials, is > involved. Would be nice having some kind of "export" feature. Sorry, I meant click on the "edit" button, much easier to edit down to just the code from there. - Robert -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
