Rob

Having looked at your weblog, I'd be keen to see further information why 
you opt for GFDL over CC-BY-SA. Your weblog promises info on that, but I 
didn't see it in the summary you sent.

john

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 1:33:14 PM UTC-5, Rob Beezer wrote:
>
> Dear John, 
>
> Harald has sent you some great info and advice on licenses.  Its a 
> complicated 
> topic. 
>
> I personally like CC BY-SA, and I also frequently use the GFDL (GNU Free 
> Documentation License) for longer works, even though it can complicate 
> license 
> compatibility.  Here is an incomplete set of posts where I say more: 
>
> http://www.beezers.org/blog/bb/category/licenses/ 
>
> My advice would be to use Amazon's CreateSpace (easy) or Ingram's 
> Lightning 
> Source (professional) for print-on-demand copies.  Add a $5 or $10 
> "royalty" for 
> distribution as you suggest (scholarship, Sage) and be totally up-front on 
> the 
> amount and destination.  I'd be surprised if anybody tried to under-cut 
> you, or 
> if they would be very successful. 
>
> For peer-review, the Open Textbook Inititaive at the American Institute of 
> Mathematics does exactly that.  They include Grg Bard's new "Sage for 
> Undergraduates" book, so there is at least one appropriate category for 
> your 
> text.  They also have a ton of good advice for authors. 
>
> http://aimath.org/textbooks/ 
>
> Rob 
>
>
> On 10/09/2016 07:48 AM, john_perry_usm wrote: 
> > Harald 
> > 
> > If I understand correctly, the mistake I made was confusing 
> "noncommercial" with 
> > "not-for-profit." Thank you for pointing out that very dumb mistake. I 
> have to 
> > emphasize this mistake really is on me; I added NC right before 
> uploading it, 
> > without thinking too much about it. That explains why you saw CC-BY-SA 
> somewhere 
> > else: that was the original plan. I will change that back. 
> > 
> > *Thank you very much* also for noticing the issue with the bunny 
> picture. My 
> > confusion on "noncommercial" v. "not-for-profit" is the main reason for 
> that. 
> > One of the links you provided suggests that I was on pretty good grounds 
> with 
> > that, but now that you point it out I can see that this could be an 
> issue. I 
> > have contacted the author via flickr mail to see if he's willing to 
> license it 
> > to us under CC-BY-SA, but he hasn't uploaded a photo for more than 2 
> years, so 
> > there may be no reply. I image I'll have to change the picture (we can 
> generate 
> > something similar ourselves, and one co-author may well be happy to 
> immortalize 
> > his bunny. 
> > 
> > john perry 
> > 
> > On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 5:59:12 AM UTC-5, Harald Schilly wrote: 
> > 
> >     Now I also started to look at the content, first off 
> > 
> >     On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 9:30:44 AM UTC+2, john_perry_usm 
> wrote: 
> > 
> >         (c1) The administration expresses support for, and interest in, 
> open 
> >         textbooks. 
> > 
> > 
> >      well, as mentioned above, open textbooks definitions usually imply 
> that 
> >     they can be used freely, like software licensed under the GPL (Sage 
> is GPL 
> >     licensed) etc. With the NC part, this then isn't an open textbook 
> any more 
> >     -- 
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#NonFreeDocumentationLicenses
>  
> >     <
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#NonFreeDocumentationLicenses>
>  
>
> > 
> >     > even charge royalties 
> > 
> >     The bunny picture on page 195 is NC licensed. What is the agreement 
> between 
> >     the copyright holder of that image and your plan regarding charging 
> >     royalties and splitting them? That detail alone would make this book 
> very 
> >     proprietary, since you're now the only one with that licensing 
> agreement 
> >     between the copyright holder of that picture and nobody else has a 
> real 
> >     chance to use this book in a context like teaching (simply because 
> it is 
> >     hard to track down the person, etc.). I'm not sure if this is the 
> intention, 
> >     but I'm just mentioning this. I would like to see this book getting 
> used 
> >     somewhere else … 
> > 
> >     In "Any last words" on page 10 the license is referred to as 
> > 
> >     > CC-BY-SA 
> > 
> >     which is what I'm arguing for. Problem is, it is incompatible with 
> the NC of 
> >     the bunny picture: 
> >     https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Wiki/cc_license_compatibility 
> >     <https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Wiki/cc_license_compatibility> 
>
> > 
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