Dear John,

Harald has sent you some great info and advice on licenses. Its a complicated topic.

I personally like CC BY-SA, and I also frequently use the GFDL (GNU Free Documentation License) for longer works, even though it can complicate license compatibility. Here is an incomplete set of posts where I say more:

http://www.beezers.org/blog/bb/category/licenses/

My advice would be to use Amazon's CreateSpace (easy) or Ingram's Lightning Source (professional) for print-on-demand copies. Add a $5 or $10 "royalty" for distribution as you suggest (scholarship, Sage) and be totally up-front on the amount and destination. I'd be surprised if anybody tried to under-cut you, or if they would be very successful.

For peer-review, the Open Textbook Inititaive at the American Institute of Mathematics does exactly that. They include Grg Bard's new "Sage for Undergraduates" book, so there is at least one appropriate category for your text. They also have a ton of good advice for authors.

http://aimath.org/textbooks/

Rob


On 10/09/2016 07:48 AM, john_perry_usm wrote:
Harald

If I understand correctly, the mistake I made was confusing "noncommercial" with
"not-for-profit." Thank you for pointing out that very dumb mistake. I have to
emphasize this mistake really is on me; I added NC right before uploading it,
without thinking too much about it. That explains why you saw CC-BY-SA somewhere
else: that was the original plan. I will change that back.

*Thank you very much* also for noticing the issue with the bunny picture. My
confusion on "noncommercial" v. "not-for-profit" is the main reason for that.
One of the links you provided suggests that I was on pretty good grounds with
that, but now that you point it out I can see that this could be an issue. I
have contacted the author via flickr mail to see if he's willing to license it
to us under CC-BY-SA, but he hasn't uploaded a photo for more than 2 years, so
there may be no reply. I image I'll have to change the picture (we can generate
something similar ourselves, and one co-author may well be happy to immortalize
his bunny.

john perry

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 5:59:12 AM UTC-5, Harald Schilly wrote:

    Now I also started to look at the content, first off

    On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 9:30:44 AM UTC+2, john_perry_usm wrote:

        (c1) The administration expresses support for, and interest in, open
        textbooks.


     well, as mentioned above, open textbooks definitions usually imply that
    they can be used freely, like software licensed under the GPL (Sage is GPL
    licensed) etc. With the NC part, this then isn't an open textbook any more
    -- 
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#NonFreeDocumentationLicenses
    
<https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#NonFreeDocumentationLicenses>

    > even charge royalties

    The bunny picture on page 195 is NC licensed. What is the agreement between
    the copyright holder of that image and your plan regarding charging
    royalties and splitting them? That detail alone would make this book very
    proprietary, since you're now the only one with that licensing agreement
    between the copyright holder of that picture and nobody else has a real
    chance to use this book in a context like teaching (simply because it is
    hard to track down the person, etc.). I'm not sure if this is the intention,
    but I'm just mentioning this. I would like to see this book getting used
    somewhere else …

    In "Any last words" on page 10 the license is referred to as

    > CC-BY-SA

    which is what I'm arguing for. Problem is, it is incompatible with the NC of
    the bunny picture:
    https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Wiki/cc_license_compatibility
    <https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Wiki/cc_license_compatibility>

    -- h


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