+1 for threejs as default.
David

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 7:24 PM Travis Scrimshaw <tsc...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> +1 for making the default threejs.
>
> Best,
> Travis
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 9:51:23 PM UTC+10, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sage-dev,
>>
>> This is a poll to make three.js (https://threejs.org/) the default 3d
>> viewer
>> in Sage, in replacement of Jmol (https://sourceforge.net/projects/jmol/).
>>
>> Indeed, thanks to the work of Paul Masson, the three.js 3d viewer is
>> doing a
>> very good job in displaying Sage 3d plots, as you can see in these
>> examples
>> taken from Sage reference's manual:
>>
>> https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/egourgoulhon/SageMathTest/blob/master/Worksheets/sage_reference_threejs.ipynb
>>
>> You can rotate/zoom the 3d view with the mouse and, by clicking on the
>> small black
>> arrow at the bottom right of the view, you can download a png screenshot.
>>
>> Other examples of three.js rendering can be found in this notebook
>> devoted to
>> anti de Sitter space:
>>
>> https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/sagemanifolds/SageManifolds/blob/master/Notebooks/SM_anti_de_Sitter.ipynb
>>
>> For more information about the three.js renderer in Sage, see
>> https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/plot3d/threejs.html
>>
>> The discussion about having three.js as the default viewer is taking
>> place in
>> the ticket
>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22408
>> This ticket also contains the git branch to perform the change if decided.
>>
>> Here is a discussion summary: in favor of three.js, we have
>>
>> - three.js, which is based on the WebGL API, displays 3d plots faster than
>>   Jmol, and with a better quality
>>
>> - 3d plots rendered with three.js can be publicly shared via
>>   nbviewer.jupyter.org, contrary to those rendered with Jmol, which
>> appear as
>>   blank spaces, cf. this test notebook:
>>
>> https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/egourgoulhon/SageMathTest/blob/master/Worksheets/test_3d_view.ipynb
>>
>> - three.js enables to label the plot axes (via the option 'axes_labels',
>> the default
>>   of which is ['x', 'y', 'z']); on the opposite, there are no labels on
>> Jmol
>>   plots and the option 'axes_labels' is ineffective, which looks like a
>> serious
>>   drawback for a mathematical software...
>>
>> - Jmol causes many troubles to Sage packagers (see #22408
>> <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22408> for details);
>>   for instance in Sage 8.8 console, Jmol display is broken on recent
>>   Debian-based distros (e.g. Debian Buster and Ubuntu 18.04), due to a JRE
>>   issue; fortunately this is fixed by
>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25026
>>
>> On the con side, there are
>>
>> - the current lack of non-interactive conversion of three.js views to
>> static
>>   png figures (in interactive mode, the black arrow mentioned above does
>> the
>>   job). As a result, the png figures in the reference manual will still be
>>   generated with Jmol, as proposed in #22408
>> <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22408>
>>
>> - some minor opacity issues (see #22408
>> <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22408> for details)
>>
>>
>> Given the above elements, please vote!
>>
>> Eric.
>>
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