What is the extent of the bug? Does it require forming a polynomial ring 
whose coefficients are a BooleanPolynomialRing? That's pretty specific. If 
the problem arises more generally, with other rings as coefficients, then 
it could be a blocker.


On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 11:49:30 AM UTC-8, Emmanuel Charpentier 
wrote:
>
> Even considering the pivotal rôle of polynomials and fraction fields 
> thereof ?
>
> Le jeudi 20 décembre 2018 20:47:03 UTC+1, John H Palmieri a écrit :
>>
>> Critical but it's not a blocker, in my opinion.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, Emmanuel Charpentier 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/JuxpFfaKYzA> seems 
>>> seems to be a showstopper, enough to trump the best laid out plans of mice, 
>>> men and mathematicians.
>>>
>>> No ticket yet, but I agree that this seems critical. 
>>>
>>> Le mardi 18 décembre 2018 12:50:44 UTC+1, E. Madison Bray a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> As pointed out by Samuel last month [1] the transition freeze (i.e. 
>>>> new package versions) for the next major Debian release (buster) is 
>>>> coming up January 12 [2].  This is important for Sage and those 
>>>> working to package Sage for Debian, as it will impact what version of 
>>>> Sage is available in Debian, and by extension big name Debian-based 
>>>> distributions such as Ubuntu and Mint that carry with them probably 
>>>> the majority of users on Linux. 
>>>>
>>>> Setting what version of Sage will be in Debian, prior to the freeze, 
>>>> is not such a big deal in its own right as not many packages depend on 
>>>> Sage.  However, it does impact what versions of Sage's many 
>>>> dependencies can be included, and GAP perhaps has the largest impact 
>>>> there, as there are also many packages that depend on GAP (mostly GAP 
>>>> packages). 
>>>>
>>>> The biggest sticking point right now to packaging Sage for Debian is 
>>>> thus what version of GAP can go in Debian as well (and I don't think 
>>>> the GAP community will be too happy about it if the GAP version gets 
>>>> held back because of Sage; though the more likely outcome there is 
>>>> that Sage gets held back (or excluded entirely) if it can't work with 
>>>> the new GAP). 
>>>>
>>>> Thus some of us have been working hard to find a working convergence 
>>>> between Sage and GAP 4.10.x.  That work is nearly ready [3] (pending 
>>>> some needed patches to GAP), and given the normal rate of Sage's 
>>>> release cycle it would be a shame to have this work excluded from Sage 
>>>> 8.5, considering that it is the major blocker for Debian. 
>>>>
>>>> Therefore I propose doing a few more rounds of Sage 8.5 pre-releases 
>>>> specifically with the focus of upgrading GAP: Completing #22626 which 
>>>> I think will be ready-enough by tomorrow (I would prefer to wait until 
>>>> GAP 4.10.1 is out but starting testing now would be better) and 
>>>> sending it to the patchbots, while putting a hold on any other 
>>>> non-critical fixes. 
>>>>
>>>> If for some reason that's impossible then we should quickly release a 
>>>> Sage 8.6 that is focused primarily on GAP 4.10 compatibility. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Erik 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/ztLmB2xWFig/kWk7LGycCQAJ 
>>>> [2] https://release.debian.org/buster/freeze_policy.html 
>>>> [3] https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22626 
>>>>
>>>

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