Regardless of how "useful" or awesome the Jupyter notebook is and how many people in scientific computing are using it, there is a substantial ecosystem now designed around the Sage notebook proper - including perhaps even the not-yet-one-year-old "Sage for Undergraduates" book? - and a lot of people "know" how to use it to do various things. Some of the below were mentioned above. * Access to documentation * Access to live documentation * things like %auto, %hide - presumably some of these are in Jupyter * difference in @interact API * It can't handle attached files properly, really? I was surprised to read that * Different way to create math markup/'text' cells I'll also point out that William apparently felt it was useful to create a .sagews format rather than just have ipynb be the default in SMC, which presumably has different features? Or was that only because Jupyter was not as good when he started SMC?
Another issue would be how to deal with the Mac app, what its default should be, etc. Similarly for the virtual Windows solution - will people even be able to find their stuff? > I clearly don't agree with that, since that's never been the case before, as I mentioned. I'll not press this any further. I'll press it further: not doing this is basically flipping the bird to a lot of long-time users. I don't mean this sarcastically. > > And thats not going to get easier by delaying when we change the defaults. > It will be much easier for our users to actually *use* a converter if we delay changing the defaults until after such a converter is written. Uh, duh. All these comments are predicated upon a "strong" change of default. In a normal user interface (to me, as a user) there would be a really easy way to decide *not* to change the default when first downloading/upgrading. I think someone mentioned this before as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.