On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-8, Nils Bruin wrote:
>
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:12:57 PM UTC-10, William wrote:
>>
>> It will be much easier for our users to actually *use* a converter if 
>> we delay changing the defaults until after such a converter is 
>> written. 
>>
>
> ++1 (OK, I guess that's an error in most language). 
>
> It's going to be a relatively unpleasant surprise for people if they start 
> up the "sage notebook" and find a different notebook. We could possibly 
> alleviate the problem of lack of information by somehow guessing if this is 
> the first time this user starts up sage ipython notebook (and perhaps only 
> if we detect there is evince of a sagenb) and startup with a document that 
> explains how to do migration.
>
> If the default changes, then most users will assume they are supposed to 
> change with it (and we should only do this once we think users should 
> change, e.g., when interacts work) 
>
> At the very least there should be a method to:
>  - start the classic notebook
>  - save a collection of worksheets (sagenb)
>  - convert them to ipynb, at least in a way that works for "simple" 
> worksheets. Attached files etc. are obviously going to be an issue.
>
> If we don't have a tool that makes it straightforward to do this migration 
> then we're not ready to change defaults, in my opinion.
>
>

I think we need a migration tool and a deprecation warning: "The old Sage 
notebook is deprecated in favor of Jupyter notebooks. For information about 
converting old-style notebooks to Jupyter notebooks, see ... To use Jupyter 
notebooks now, run 'sage -notebook=jupyter'." Then the next version of Sage 
can change the default behavior.

-- 
John

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