There is a practical issue with having to edit the menu.lst
file from within windows.
It is at least IMPLIED that the user should do this before
re-booting and of course it would be NICE to do it while
the instructions are still displayed.
The puzzle of course is how to find and edit menu.lst
while still in the Windows environment.
One could argue that anyone with a grub loader should
know Linux/Unix well enough to do that outside of the Windows
environment, but I am reading an implicit goal to be
inclusive of the Windows and "less than expert" Linux user
community.
IOW; We're not all expert Unix hackers out here (-:
I suggest some detailed instructions in the readme.txt,
including a line to say "Print this before shutting down windows".
A short "How To" in the readme on creating a bootable
USB memory stick would also be useful in helping the first
time user achieve a working set-up.
I know you can't make it the total manual about anything
and everything, but I think these items are "needed".
Best,
\R
On Nov 25, 3:44 pm, emil <emil.widm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi RegB,
>
> thanks for extremly valuable feedback!
>
> > Thanks,
> > A correction to the failure to evaluate.
> > On a "FRESH" system, such as a windoze user might try this on.
> > When sage is started a pop up requester appears asking for a new
> > password, but it is quickly overwritten by the browser image, so
> > it can be easily missed by someone not looking/waiting for it.
> > Of course I rushed into typing 2+2 <shift enter> without being
> > logged in.
>
> This is a slight problem, I might reconsider the standart "popping"
> place of the notebook.
> I will mention it prominently, that one has to wait for sage server to
> start, and also wait at first start for the password creation.
> But I think once it is accepted that it should work people will be
> able to find those loggins.
>
> > Another thing is that there appears to be no jre - I suspect you
> > are trying to stay within a single CD ?
>
> I am a bit ashamed that I forgot that sage needs Java for 3d graphics.
> I briefly considered
> to include it by default, but than I decided to leave it out because
> JRE is listed in the "quickpet" installer. The size would be no
> problem because it takes ~35 MB in the compressed filesystem. This
> should definitly be included in the next version (maybe even a full
> java)
>
> > My "quick and dirty jre test is the first 3d plot in the tutorial.
> > This;
> > x, y = var('x,y')
> > plot3d(x^2 + y^2, (x,-2,2), (y,-2,2))
>
> > throws a yellow background and a link to the java web site.
> > Once I set up my networking I was able to get there, but on my
> > standalone UBUNTU (as well as the ones in Virtual Box) I have
> > found it quicker/simpler/easier (for newbie me) to use synaptics
> > package manager to install "weird" - icedtea, etc.
>
> great, you managed it -
>
> I didn't test the quickpet install,so I just now realised that jre is
> broken there, I have to report upstream!
> However there is a solution :D! I quickly made a package for the
> latest Java runtime environment. This should work:
> boxen.math.washington.edu/home/emil/sagelive/jre_1.6.0_22.pet
> download and klick it to install.
>
> Ok thanks very much for the feedback
> Emil
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