On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:06 PM, François Bissey <f.r.bis...@massey.ac.nz> wrote:
>> I'm sure Singular has a process to fix the problems you mention.
>> All you have to do is send a 'diff -Naur' patch that improves the build.
>>
>> You got hundreds of megabytes of code for free and you're complaining
>> because the install script isn't written the way you advocate?
>>
>> Advocacy is volunteering.
>>
>> Send them a thank-you note for all the free code and include a patch file.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> "Open source... now it's YOUR problem to solve" -- daly
> OK I sympathise, that's in the same line as
> "there are two groups of people: those who can and those who complain"
> I volunteer and try to do stuff but while I can see some problems I am not
> necessarily competent to do something about it.
> Actually in the case of singular I may end up making it worse.

+1

I would like to very strongly encourage people to complain about
anything they find very frustrating in Sage, since it is difficult to
know what to fix without these complaints.   This sort of user
feedback is extremely valuable, especially from users who aren't
capable of contributing back.

You can use this link to complain anonymously:

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pCwvGVwSMxTzT6E2xNdo5fA

I'll try to be as constructive as possible with my complaints about
upstream components though.  In the past, I've sometimes not done so,
and always regretted it.

> But I think the singular spkg can be improved and that I think I can do.
> I will certainly have a shoot, once I have marked the 200 copies that are
> coming my way in the next week.

Cool, thanks!   And if nothing else you can post some of your findings to

   http://wiki.sagemath.org/days23.5

so somebody like me can think about this at the Sage/Singular sage days.

William

>
> Francois
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