On Apr 23, 1:58 am, "Gabriel Dos Reis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM, mabshoff
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I don't want this discussion to go out of hand [too late], but
> > ultimately this is all about what is best for the Sage project. And my
> > opinion there counts a whole lot more in that regard than yours, just
> > as my opinion about Axiom is totally irrelevant.
>
> Michael --
Gaby,
> Don't worry too much about being distracted by Tim. Just providing
> data as you have
> been doing so well is sufficient for us to form opinion. Please keep
> the good work up.
> And certainly, I value your opinion about CASs for the Axiom family.
Well, since I have no stake over in the Axiom family because I do not
contribute code I meant to say that Tim is free to ignore my opinion.
I certainly have an opinion on Axiom, but this thread is loaded enough
that I do not need to pour gasoline in the flames ;)
But it is important to me that sage-devel is a forum where each voice
is heard and while I fundamentally disagree with Tim I greatly prefer
him to be around. This forum should not be some cult like thing where
we all tell each other how great we are and that William walks on
water. I am rude, opinionated and I state my opinion honestly. I have
been wrong, very wrong, very, very wrong and will be wrong again in
the future, but in that case I am the first to call myself an idiot in
public. Tim might be right 99% of the time, but he fights for his
ideas as fiercely even for the 1% where he might be wrong. So, in the
end I might owe Tim an apology on some of the things where he is
right, but in my point of view he is wrong about lisp and also wrong
about literate programming. This is a free country [planet :)], so
both of us are free to follow up on their own opinion. I am sure Sage
will succeed, which is all that matters to me.
What is also important is that in sage-devel technical reasons trumps
all else, i.e. just because you are are reputable, widely respected
person in the mathematical world expect no lenience from me if I think
you are wrong. In mathematics you are either wrong or right - we don't
have that luxury in programming, hence we have "discussions" like
this. I immensely enjoy those, but I am getting back to work on Sage
3.0.1 now. :=)
> -- Gaby
Cheers,
Michael
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