On Tuesday 20 August 2024 at 10:03:59 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote:

On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-7 julian...@fsfe.org wrote:

I consider this approved. 


While I don't think I would be opposed to the proposal here, I believe that 
our policy says that for a disputed PR to be "approved," a vote needs to 
happen here or on the PR.


Julian, you snipped away what "this" is what I consider approved -- namely 
the proposed policy (not the PR).


Thank you for the clarification. I certainly read the message as the 
presumed approval pertaining to both the policy and the PR, because they 
were tied together and discussed together from the start.

In any case, I would think that in this case it is really the policy change 
that needs the vote anyway; not the implementing PR (there review should 
take care of technical issues).

We have seen several examples where we really want functionality from 
software that is developed in languages that we don't want to support the 
build environment for (I think we now have examples of javascript and rust 
for this), so I think we're going to need a policy along the lines of what 
you and/or Dima have proposed. What is currently not clear to me is *where* 
those binary wheels are going to come from and how we're going to 
test/ensure that they are available for the platforms that we commit to 
supporting. It would also be good to think about what we're going to do if 
at some point we find that for one of our supported platforms such wheels 
are not available. Are we going to just drop that platform? We might have 
to. Or perhaps it's more advantageous to then "gracefully" reduce 
functionality and still provide sagemath for that platform; just not with 
the functionality that relies on the unavailable binary. But then it 
becomes more like an optional prerequisite for enhancing functionality.

I think the discussion is the important part here: by the looks of it 
reality is forcing the something like the policy on us, and we can't really 
vote that away. 

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