Before looking at https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/lPLoA7zaoyg/m/dGE1B1jQEQAJ we should look at this proposal again, as pytest is a very suitable candidate for the kinds of packages (standard pip packages) proposed here.
Indeed, nothing (save for a very marginal case of a complete offline install - and this can be helped if there is a will to allow such packages) is gained by mechanically adding the pytest dependencies into Sage the distro. And doing this an extra code bloat, with stuff we don't patch, and don't even know what's there. E.g. we can add a backdoored,or otherwise broken, version of one of these into the distro, giving it extra legitimacy for no reason. Dima On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 7:23:42 PM UTC Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Currently the standard packages cannot be pip packages, i.e. we must, in > effect, vendor them. This entails an extra effort which is often not > needed, in particular as we patch only very few Python packages. > Pip packages are on the other hand installed straight from PyPI. > > Good examples of standard packages which can become pip ones are tox, > pytest (not yet standard). > > > The other difference is that by default these packages are not included in > the Sage releases source tarball. > > Rather than adding them there I propose to split the upstream/* part of > the tarball into something optional - which is represented by a list of > files to download, and which is just not needed if you build while > connected to the internet. > > This is a huge saving on the tarball size: with upstream/* in, Sage 10.2 > tarball is 1.3Gb, and without it is smaller than 0.25Gb. > > Note that as William writes, the desire to have Sage buildable without an > internet connection was a requirement by a past Sage funder, gone about 10 > years ago. Thus there's no longer an obligation to have this option. > I am not aware of a similar to Sage which provides tarballs allowing for > an offline build. > > Thus, I would like to call a vote on these two topics: > > 1) allow standard packages to be pip packages > > 2) drop the contents of upstream/ from the Sage source tarballs. > > > --- > Dima > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/77996190-28c2-4a88-a49c-3b4f28edff01n%40googlegroups.com.
