On a seemingly unrelated note which is actually quite related, I don’t 
think it would be possible to find this out, but it would be interesting to 
know at what rate there has been user -> developer conversion over the 
years. 

Depends on the definition of conversion. In olden times, you might have 
estimated it by studying the dates of the requests for sage-trac account 
requests. Now that github accounts allow to file a ticket, you might study 
the dates at which a (new) user files its first (non-invalid) ticket (yes, 
posting a ticket is a start on the road to developping…) or its first 
branch (successful or not). Now, if you insist on a “Damascus road” 
definition of conversion, this might be a little harder…
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Le lundi 25 avril 2022 à 15:47:57 UTC+2, kcrisman a écrit :

> Everyone agrees on that part, but how to go about it is a religious 
>> matter.
>
>
> Truth.
>  
>
>> I've been using sage, teaching with sage, writing papers that 
>> cite sage, and giving presentations about my research that use sage for 
>> about fifteen years. I have literally never met someone besides myself 
>> who has managed to install it. The only installation procedure that 
>> anyone uses is, 
>>
>> 1. Give the computer to mjo 
>> 2. It comes back in the morning with sage installed 
>>
>>
> Though I can identify with the frustration from personal experience, 
> thankfully, for at least half of Sage's history (non-consecutive, to be 
> sure), that hasn't been literally true on Mac.  And for Windows, it still 
> seems pretty reasonable to say that if we don't have a 
> drag-and-double-click solution (whether using Cygwin or WSL or whatever), 
> many will use it via Cocalc or (more likely) not at all.
>
> On a seemingly unrelated note which is actually quite related, I don't 
> think it would be possible to find this out, but it would be interesting to 
> know at what rate there has been user -> developer conversion over the 
> years.  
>

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