Do you still (?) want reports of successes/failures/hick-ups. I always
seem to find the last :)
rrogers
On 4/22/22 11:16, seb....@gmail.com wrote:
(./sage -i should be deprecated and removed…)
— or just have ‘sage -i xyz’ do whatever ‘make xyz’ now does, perhaps.
+1
Replacing |sage -i xyz| by |make xyz| sounds like assuming /all Sage
users are developers/. |make xyz| doesn’t work if the current
directory isn’t |SAGE_ROOT| or if |make| doesn’t exist on the system.
Our advice in |_spkg_installation_hint| to install an optional package
is still |sage -i|.
If we don’t support optional packages for binary distribution, we
should make it clear in the installation guide. Otherwise we need to
make sure this works (at least for packages that just copy one file or
can be installed by |pip|).
At the moment both methods don’t work for binary distribution.
Regarding |sage -i| see for example this post
<https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/alkG4veIsBk/m/KCOGgKLJAQAJ>
along with this update
<https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/alkG4veIsBk/m/lXYBq-vQAQAJ>.
Regarding |make|, I verified this on the |ubuntu:latest| docker image
by following both binary install instructions from our guide.
BTW: It seems that things became harder for newcomers to Sage to get
it’s current version installed from binaries. Tarballs for 9.5 are not
available on download mirrors anymore. For Ubuntu users the hint to
use the systems standard package managers leads to an old version
(9.0) (assuming most of them would use |apt| before installing
|conda|, see for examples this thread
<https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/G3kTSdR4fj8/m/CTRtjM0ZDAAJ>).
Another irritation: |command-not-found| tells you:
|Command 'sage' not found, but can be installed with: sudo apt install
sagemath-common |
But if you do that it will end up with a failure.
john.c...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 31. Januar 2022 um 21:13:41 UTC+1:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 20:07, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 20:01 John Cremona, <john.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 17:12 Sébastien Labbé, <sla...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> The "./configure" part of the installation of sage advice this:
>>> database_cremona_ellcurve-20190911: optional, use "./configure
--enable-database_cremona_ellcurve" to install
>>>
>>> Therefore, if I were you, after updating the source tree with
git let's say, I would do:
>>>
>>> make configure
>>> ./configure --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve
>>> MAKE='make -j8' make
>>>
>>> to compile sagemath in parallel such a way that it
automatically installs the desired optional packages in whatever
ordering respecting the dependencies which works.
>>>
>>> You may also want more such "enable" as follows:
>>>
>>> ./configure \
>>> --enable-experimental-packages \
>>> --enable-download-from-upstream-url \
>>> --enable-ccache \
>>> --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve
>>>
>>> You may consult the config.log file which lists a lot of them.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Sébastien
>>
>>
>> Thanks for that. Some of us have been building Sage from source
for a long time (14 years!) which means we are set in our ways and
just do what we have always done.
>>
>> On the other hand it should surely be possible to install a
package as simple as this one without triggering a full rebuild,
completely unnecessarily, instead having to know before starting
every optional package one might ever need.
>
>
> you can run ./configure as above after running make, you don't
typically have to do this from scratch.
>
> one also should be able to run
>
>
> make database_cremona_ellcurve
Dime, you're a hero -- that worked perfectly just as sage -i used to.
>
>
> (./sage -i should be deprecated and removed...)
-- or just have 'sage -i xyz' do whatever 'make xyz' now does,
perhaps.
John
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 5:57:08 PM UTC+1
john.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [copied from sage-release]
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 13:47
>>>> Subject: Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released
>>>> To: <sage-r...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just successfully built 9.5 from a fresh tarball. After
completing
>>>> the build I installed (as I usually do) an optional package
with the
>>>> command-line "./sage -i database_cremona_ellcurve" and now it is
>>>> rebuilding gmp. What is going on here? Has the way of installing
>>>> optional packages changed -- in which case, surely the use of
"sage
>>>> -i" should tell you what to do instead, instead of doing the
'wrong'
>>>> thing?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> PS In the end it seemed to rebuild just about everything,
even though
>>>> installing that package only involves copying one data file;
it took a
>>>> couple of hours. It would be nice to know how to avoid it
happening
>>>> again (I have several other machines I want to install Sage
on and I
>>>> do always need this package;))
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