On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 2:08 AM Ray Rogers <raymond.roger...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do you still (?) want reports of successes/failures/hick-ups. I always seem > to find the last :)
Sure, we do. Needless to say, it's better be triaged against known bugs. > > rrogers > > On 4/22/22 11:16, seb....@gmail.com wrote: > > (./sage -i should be deprecated and removed…) > > — or just have ‘sage -i xyz’ do whatever ‘make xyz’ now does, perhaps. > > +1 > > Replacing sage -i xyz by make xyz sounds like assuming all Sage users are > developers. make xyz doesn’t work if the current directory isn’t SAGE_ROOT or > if make doesn’t exist on the system. Our advice in _spkg_installation_hint to > install an optional package is still sage -i. > > If we don’t support optional packages for binary distribution, we should make > it clear in the installation guide. Otherwise we need to make sure this works > (at least for packages that just copy one file or can be installed by pip). > > At the moment both methods don’t work for binary distribution. Regarding sage > -i see for example this post along with this update. Regarding make, I > verified this on the ubuntu:latest docker image by following both binary > install instructions from our guide. > > BTW: It seems that things became harder for newcomers to Sage to get it’s > current version installed from binaries. Tarballs for 9.5 are not available > on download mirrors anymore. For Ubuntu users the hint to use the systems > standard package managers leads to an old version (9.0) (assuming most of > them would use apt before installing conda, see for examples this thread). > Another irritation: command-not-found tells you: > > Command 'sage' not found, but can be installed with: > sudo apt install sagemath-common > > But if you do that it will end up with a failure. > > john.c...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 31. Januar 2022 um 21:13:41 UTC+1: >> >> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 20:07, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 20:01 John Cremona, <john.c...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 17:12 Sébastien Labbé, <sla...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> The "./configure" part of the installation of sage advice this: >> >>> database_cremona_ellcurve-20190911: optional, use "./configure >> >>> --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve" to install >> >>> >> >>> Therefore, if I were you, after updating the source tree with git let's >> >>> say, I would do: >> >>> >> >>> make configure >> >>> ./configure --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve >> >>> MAKE='make -j8' make >> >>> >> >>> to compile sagemath in parallel such a way that it automatically >> >>> installs the desired optional packages in whatever ordering respecting >> >>> the dependencies which works. >> >>> >> >>> You may also want more such "enable" as follows: >> >>> >> >>> ./configure \ >> >>> --enable-experimental-packages \ >> >>> --enable-download-from-upstream-url \ >> >>> --enable-ccache \ >> >>> --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve >> >>> >> >>> You may consult the config.log file which lists a lot of them. >> >>> >> >>> Sincerely, >> >>> >> >>> Sébastien >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for that. Some of us have been building Sage from source for a >> >> long time (14 years!) which means we are set in our ways and just do what >> >> we have always done. >> >> >> >> On the other hand it should surely be possible to install a package as >> >> simple as this one without triggering a full rebuild, completely >> >> unnecessarily, instead having to know before starting every optional >> >> package one might ever need. >> > >> > >> > you can run ./configure as above after running make, you don't typically >> > have to do this from scratch. >> > >> > one also should be able to run >> > >> > >> > make database_cremona_ellcurve >> >> Dime, you're a hero -- that worked perfectly just as sage -i used to. >> >> > >> > >> > (./sage -i should be deprecated and removed...) >> >> -- or just have 'sage -i xyz' do whatever 'make xyz' now does, perhaps. >> >> John >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 5:57:08 PM UTC+1 john.c...@gmail.com >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> [copied from sage-release] >> >>>> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> >>>> From: John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com> >> >>>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 13:47 >> >>>> Subject: Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released >> >>>> To: <sage-r...@googlegroups.com> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I just successfully built 9.5 from a fresh tarball. After completing >> >>>> the build I installed (as I usually do) an optional package with the >> >>>> command-line "./sage -i database_cremona_ellcurve" and now it is >> >>>> rebuilding gmp. What is going on here? Has the way of installing >> >>>> optional packages changed -- in which case, surely the use of "sage >> >>>> -i" should tell you what to do instead, instead of doing the 'wrong' >> >>>> thing? >> >>>> >> >>>> John >> >>>> >> >>>> PS In the end it seemed to rebuild just about everything, even though >> >>>> installing that package only involves copying one data file; it took a >> >>>> couple of hours. It would be nice to know how to avoid it happening >> >>>> again (I have several other machines I want to install Sage on and I >> >>>> do always need this package;)) >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/aa5c66df-2b53-4ef6-9cd0-4338035cef00n%40googlegroups.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "sage-devel" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAD0p0K6htUkAZ%2BpiW9qgn89_AYowTmE9unkFjXGRrwUW_DTiqw%40mail.gmail.com. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "sage-devel" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> > email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq1eB7YW4AhDbFNc3AuZDXkEf0x5P42ixxU8YL9BpwkXOQ%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/0670163c-df7f-4b61-906f-3dc86ece9d11n%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/86368d30-0a1e-3ffa-b48d-aa522bd2f098%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. 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