(./sage -i should be deprecated and removed…)
— or just have ‘sage -i xyz’ do whatever ‘make xyz’ now does, perhaps. +1 Replacing sage -i xyz by make xyz sounds like assuming *all Sage users are developers*. make xyz doesn’t work if the current directory isn’t SAGE_ROOT or if make doesn’t exist on the system. Our advice in _spkg_installation_hint to install an optional package is still sage -i. If we don’t support optional packages for binary distribution, we should make it clear in the installation guide. Otherwise we need to make sure this works (at least for packages that just copy one file or can be installed by pip). At the moment both methods don’t work for binary distribution. Regarding sage -i see for example this post <https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/alkG4veIsBk/m/KCOGgKLJAQAJ> along with this update <https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/alkG4veIsBk/m/lXYBq-vQAQAJ>. Regarding make, I verified this on the ubuntu:latest docker image by following both binary install instructions from our guide. BTW: It seems that things became harder for newcomers to Sage to get it’s current version installed from binaries. Tarballs for 9.5 are not available on download mirrors anymore. For Ubuntu users the hint to use the systems standard package managers leads to an old version (9.0) (assuming most of them would use apt before installing conda, see for examples this thread <https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/G3kTSdR4fj8/m/CTRtjM0ZDAAJ>). Another irritation: command-not-found tells you: Command 'sage' not found, but can be installed with: sudo apt install sagemath-common But if you do that it will end up with a failure. john.c...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 31. Januar 2022 um 21:13:41 UTC+1: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 20:07, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 20:01 John Cremona, <john.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 17:12 Sébastien Labbé, <sla...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> The "./configure" part of the installation of sage advice this: > >>> database_cremona_ellcurve-20190911: optional, use "./configure > --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve" to install > >>> > >>> Therefore, if I were you, after updating the source tree with git > let's say, I would do: > >>> > >>> make configure > >>> ./configure --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve > >>> MAKE='make -j8' make > >>> > >>> to compile sagemath in parallel such a way that it automatically > installs the desired optional packages in whatever ordering respecting the > dependencies which works. > >>> > >>> You may also want more such "enable" as follows: > >>> > >>> ./configure \ > >>> --enable-experimental-packages \ > >>> --enable-download-from-upstream-url \ > >>> --enable-ccache \ > >>> --enable-database_cremona_ellcurve > >>> > >>> You may consult the config.log file which lists a lot of them. > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> > >>> Sébastien > >> > >> > >> Thanks for that. Some of us have been building Sage from source for a > long time (14 years!) which means we are set in our ways and just do what > we have always done. > >> > >> On the other hand it should surely be possible to install a package as > simple as this one without triggering a full rebuild, completely > unnecessarily, instead having to know before starting every optional > package one might ever need. > > > > > > you can run ./configure as above after running make, you don't typically > have to do this from scratch. > > > > one also should be able to run > > > > > > make database_cremona_ellcurve > > Dime, you're a hero -- that worked perfectly just as sage -i used to. > > > > > > > (./sage -i should be deprecated and removed...) > > -- or just have 'sage -i xyz' do whatever 'make xyz' now does, perhaps. > > John > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 5:57:08 PM UTC+1 john.c...@gmail.com > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> [copied from sage-release] > >>>> > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- > >>>> From: John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com> > >>>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 13:47 > >>>> Subject: Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released > >>>> To: <sage-r...@googlegroups.com> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I just successfully built 9.5 from a fresh tarball. After completing > >>>> the build I installed (as I usually do) an optional package with the > >>>> command-line "./sage -i database_cremona_ellcurve" and now it is > >>>> rebuilding gmp. What is going on here? Has the way of installing > >>>> optional packages changed -- in which case, surely the use of "sage > >>>> -i" should tell you what to do instead, instead of doing the 'wrong' > >>>> thing? > >>>> > >>>> John > >>>> > >>>> PS In the end it seemed to rebuild just about everything, even though > >>>> installing that package only involves copying one data file; it took a > >>>> couple of hours. It would be nice to know how to avoid it happening > >>>> again (I have several other machines I want to install Sage on and I > >>>> do always need this package;)) > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/aa5c66df-2b53-4ef6-9cd0-4338035cef00n%40googlegroups.com > . > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAD0p0K6htUkAZ%2BpiW9qgn89_AYowTmE9unkFjXGRrwUW_DTiqw%40mail.gmail.com > . > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq1eB7YW4AhDbFNc3AuZDXkEf0x5P42ixxU8YL9BpwkXOQ%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. 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