Ondrej wrote:

> Speaking only for myself, I don't like java too. But I have a very
> narrow minded opinion here,
> I am sure others will not agree with me completely.  I know it's GPL,
> but that's already
> more than a year (isn't it?), but it still isn't in Debian main, for
> some legal or technical problems.
> It is in non-free, so I can still install it with one command (apt-get
> install sun-java5-plugin) and it
> works out of the box in all browsers, but I am very picky, I don't
> want to depend on something
> that isn't in main (that includes Sage too for the moment). I hope
> Sage will get into Debian
> eventually, and java hopefully too. But I don't want to wait 30 years
> for that. :)

"One of the problems slowing down the complete availability of Java as
open source is that some pieces of code are not owned by Sun and could
not be released. Therefore, Sun and the community had to develop its
own replacements, and those are not trivial tasks. Reinhold said Sun
currently has early versions of the font rasterizer done, a
cryptography component and the graphics rasterizer, which is in a
pretty raw state.

Sun was asked repeatedly who were the developers of these products and
why they were so intransigent about releasing the code as open source,
but Sun diplomatically declined. All Simon Phipps, chief open source
officer at Sun would say is "If people don't want to work with us
we'll work around them."
(http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3705326)

There are a significant number of people inside and outside of Sun who
are pushing hard to make Java completely free, including Sun's Chief
Operating Systems Platform Strategist Ian Murdock (who some might
recognize as the founder of Debian :-)
(http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3676246)

So there is a very high probability that Java is is going to be made
completely free in a reasonable time frame.

Ted

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