Assalaamu alaikum,

I think the point should be to keep the English correct for the English
pronounciation.  We cannot cater to every possible translation.  For
this, we must keep the title as:

Sabily - Ubuntu Muslim Remix

On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 17:32 +0800, meorbu a wrote:
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> 
> meorbu
> 
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> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: meo...@hotmail.com
> To: sabily-us...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [sabily-users] Re: [Sabily.team] [Ubuntu-tn-mc] Meeting
> with the Tunisian LoCo
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:31:55 +0800
> 
> Salam to all Sabilian,
> 
> 1. Actually what is meaning of "remix"? If translate to Bahasa
> Malaysia it will return meaning to "remix". Unless we type "re mix",
> it will got meaning like mixing.
> 2. Which word is better, "Muslim" or "Islamic"? I like the word
> "Islamic". "Islamix" also got nice short word means, Islam mix. So it
> was same like remix.
> 
> So if you want to change to "Sabily - Ubuntu Remix Muslim", I think
> the word is not prepared properly.
> Then to make the muslim word at the end of the word, it better to use
> "Sabily - Ubuntu Islamix" which mean Sabily is Ubuntu mix with
> Islamic.
> 
> Wallahualam...
> meorbu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:27:42 +0800
> Subject: [sabily-users] Re: [Sabily.team] [Ubuntu-tn-mc] Meeting with
> the Tunisian LoCo
> From: s...@frijal.com
> To: ibnalialtu...@sabily.org
> CC: abdelmonam.ko...@gmail.com; sabily.team@lists.launchpad.net;
> sabily-us...@googlegroups.com
> 
> Assalamu' alaikum... 
> Sorry for my typo. I mean for the new name is "Sabily - Ubuntu
> Remix Muslim"
> Where is the Word 'Muslim" is in the end of Name.
> If MUSLIM on the middle of distro name, other people don't care about
> Sabily Mission.
> We must take a MUSLIM word in the beginning or end of the Distro Name.
> 
> 
> Thank's for your correction and appreciated.
> Wassalam...
> 
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> 
> 2011/1/5 Ibn Ali al-Turki <ibnalialtu...@sabily.org>
>         Sabily - Ubuntu Muslim Remix is best.
>         
>         
>         On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 10:15 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka wrote:
>         > Wa alaykom assalem,
>         >
>         > Sorry but I don't understand what you mean? you ask to
>         change "Sabily
>         > - Ubuntu Remix Muslim" to "Sabily - Ubuntu Muslim Remix" but
>         it is yet
>         > "Sabily - Ubuntu Muslim Remix"!
>         >
>         > 2011/1/5 Fakhrul Rijal <s...@frijal.com>
>         >         Assalamu' alaikum...
>         >         I just want to correct about name of this distro >>
>         "Sabily -
>         >         Ubuntu Muslim Remix".
>         >
>         >
>         >         For your attention, i think if we change the name
>         "Sabily -
>         >         Ubuntu Remix Muslim" to "Sabily - Ubuntu Muslim
>         Remix" is
>         >         better.
>         >
>         >
>         >         Because is different meaning on Bahasa Indonesia. ;)
>         >         Wassalamu' alaikum...
>         >
>         >
>         >         +++++++
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>         >
>         >
>         >         2011/1/5 Abdelmonam Kouka
>         <abdelmonam.ko...@gmail.com>
>         >
>         >                 I forget to said that ubuntu-tn team
>         >                 (www.ubuntu-tn.org) pass to sabily team
>         their
>         >                 congratulation :) (especial greetings from
>         the member
>         >                 Wajih aka MaWaLe) :)
>         >
>         >                 2011/1/4 Abdelmonam Kouka
>         <abdelmonam.ko...@gmail.com>
>         >
>         >                         Assalamo alaykom Sabily team,
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >                         Hereafter our response to Mark:
>         >
>         >                         ---------- Forwarded message
>         ----------
>         >                         From: Abdelmonam Kouka
>         >                         <abdelmonam.ko...@sabily.org>
>         >                         Date: 2011/1/4
>         >                         Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-tn-mc] Meeting
>         with the
>         >                         Tunisian LoCo
>         >
>         >                         To: Mark Shuttleworth
>         <m...@ubuntu.com>
>         >                         Cc: jmehdi <jme...@sabily.org>,
>         Michelle
>         >                         Surtees-Myers
>         <miche...@canonical.com>
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >                         Hi Mark and Michelle,
>         >
>         >                         Thank you very much, we are glad to
>         be able to
>         >                         use again the Ubuntu trademark.
>         >                         We are thinking about using the
>         phrase "Sabily
>         >                         - Ubuntu Muslim Remix".
>         >                         We will definitely follow the Ubuntu
>         Code of
>         >                         Conduct, and will ask our team
>         members to sign
>         >                         it.
>         >
>         >                         We in Sabily project we have the aim
>         to
>         >                         promote the use of ubuntu (and in
>         general the
>         >                         use of FOSS) inside Muslim society,
>         and to let
>         >                         Muslim youth participate in this
>         movement of
>         >                         software freedom.
>         >                         We hope we could spread together the
>         use of
>         >                         linux and open source software for
>         Muslims and
>         >                         for the whole of humanity.
>         >
>         >                         PS 1: The name Sabily means in
>         Arabic "my way"
>         >                         and we took it from a Quranic verse:
>         "This is
>         >                         my way, I invite unto Allah with
>         sure
>         >                         knowledge, I and whosoever follows
>         >                         me..." (Yusuf, 108)
>         >
>         >                         PS 2: By good coincidence the word
>         sabily
>         >                         (also sabili) means, in the African
>         language
>         >                         Swahili, "freedom":
>         http://sabi.ly/s/sabili
>         >
>         >                         Best regards from Sabily team
>         >                         http://www.sabily.org
>         >
>         >                         2011/1/3 Mark Shuttleworth
>         <m...@ubuntu.com>
>         >
>         >
>         >                                 Hi Abdelmounam and Mehdi
>         >
>         >                                 I'm cc'ing Michelle, who
>         administers
>         >                                 Ubuntu trademarks, so that
>         she has a
>         >                                 record of this approval.
>         Canonical is
>         >                                 happy for you to use the
>         Ubuntu
>         >                                 trademark as part of the
>         phrase
>         >                                 "Ubuntu Muslim Remix", or
>         "Ubuntu
>         >                                 Islamic Remix", and if you
>         wish to
>         >                                 prefix that with Sabily
>         that's fine
>         >                                 too!
>         >
>         >                                 If you do use the name
>         Ubuntu, we
>         >                                 would ask that you follow
>         the Ubuntu
>         >                                 Code of Conduct in your
>         community too.
>         >
>         >                                 My apologies for the mistake
>         we made
>         >                                 in denying the use of the
>         trademark
>         >                                 previously.
>         >
>         >                                 Mark
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >                                 On 20/12/10 22:53,
>         Abdelmonam Kouka
>         >                                 wrote:
>         >                                 > Hi Mark,
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 > I am Abdelmonam, the
>         second
>         >                                 > administrator of Sabily
>         project and
>         >                                 > the one who presented it
>         to you in
>         >                                 > Tunis (Sabily: formerly
>         Ubuntu
>         >                                 > Muslim Edition -
>         UbuntuME).
>         >                                 > First of all I would like
>         to thank
>         >                                 > you in the name of Sabily
>         team for
>         >                                 > your reaction regarding
>         Ubuntu
>         >                                 > Muslim Remix.
>         >                                 > Secondly, as we are using
>         the name
>         >                                 > "Sabily" for quite a while
>         now, we'd
>         >                                 > prefer to stay with it, as
>         people
>         >                                 > are now accustomed with
>         this name.
>         >                                 > But we could change the
>         "formerly
>         >                                 > ubuntu muslim edition"
>         part with a
>         >                                 > more official "ubuntu
>         muslim remix"
>         >                                 > title. So, by using the
>         title
>         >                                 > "Sabily - Ubuntu Muslim
>         Remix", we
>         >                                 > wouldn't perturb existing
>         users, and
>         >                                 > it would make an official
>         link to
>         >                                 > Ubuntu.
>         >                                 > Finally, kindly find in cc
>         of this
>         >                                 > mail Mehdi the founder of
>         Sabily
>         >                                 > project and its
>         administrator.
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 > Best regards
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 > 2010/12/20 Mark
>         Shuttleworth
>         >                                 > <m...@ubuntu.com>
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 >         Zied and the
>         Ubuntu-TN
>         >                                 >         management
>         committee
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 >         Thank you for your
>         >                                 >         hospitality,
>         questions and
>         >                                 >         support at last
>         weeks
>         >                                 >         event in Tunis. It
>         was a
>         >                                 >         great pleasure to
>         meet you!
>         >                                 >         I was delighted
>         >                                 >         with your energy
>         and
>         >                                 >         insights. I'll get
>         the
>         >                                 >         Ubuntu Muslim
>         Remix
>         >                                 >         trademark sorted
>         out if you
>         >                                 >         put me in touch
>         with the
>         >                                 >         leader by reply
>         email.
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 >         Best wishes,
>         >                                 >         Mark
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 >
>         >                                 >
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