Carlos,
Lots of thanks for #2 in your review! This is an excellent catch!

I agree that making a withdrawn NIST document as a NORMATIVE reference MUST be 
fixed. (My guess is that it should not be used even as an INFORMATIVE).

I also wonder what withdrawal if this NIST paper means for other RTG work items 
dealing with inclusive language (if any)😉.

Regards,
Sasha

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RTG-DIR]Rtgdir early review of 
draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-01

Reviewer: Carlos Pignataro
Review result: Ready

Hi,

Please find below the Routing Area Directorate (rtgdir) review for
draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-01.

Review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-01
Type Early Review
Team Routing Area Directorate (rtgdir)
Reviewer Carlos Pignataro

Summary:

I appreciate the drive behind this -bis and commend the work!

I found no issues on a YANG module review, particularly since the update from
8347 is editorial.

I do have a couiple of concerns, however:

1. Some references, both normative and informational, have been obsoleted:

** Obsolete normative reference: RFC 2787 (Obsoleted by RFC 6527)
** Obsolete normative reference: RFC 5246 (Obsoleted by RFC 8446)
-- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 3768
(Obsoleted by RFC 5798)

2. The NIST normative reference has been withdrawn on 02/20/2025 with a
message. Follow the URL on the reference.

[NISTIR8366]
"Guidance for NIST Staff on Using Inclusive Language in
Documentary Standards, National Institute of Standards and
Technology (NIST) Interagency or Internal Report 8366",
NISTIR 8366, April 2021,
<https://doi.org/10.6028/NIST.IR.8366<https://doi.org/10.6028/NIST.IR.8366>>.

I feel both issues need fixing.

Thanks!

Carlos.

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