Yingzhen,
Lots of thanks!

Regards,
Sasha

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

________________________________
From: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.i...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 5:53:25 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>
Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [rtgwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter updates

Hi Sasha,

Yes, your understanding is correct. If there are enough interests in the WG, 
RTGWG may adopt a problem statement draft and work on it.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 3:36 AM Alexander Vainshtein 
<alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com<mailto:alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>> wrote:
Yingzhen,
The proposed text looks fine with me, lots of thanks for the work done.

For the sake of my curiosity: do I correctly understand that:

  *   Discussion of a problem statement assumes an individual draft as a 
starting point
  *   WG decision to “pursue a problem statement document” effectively would be 
expressed as adoption of the problem statement document?

If my understanding above is correct, there is no need to add these 
clarifications to the Charter.


Regards,
Sasha

From: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.i...@gmail.com<mailto:yingzhen.i...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 3:39 AM
To: rtgwg@ietf.org<mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: [rtgwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter updates

Hi all,

Thanks for the review and comments.
Please see the updated charter below this email, highlighting the changes:

Incubating new routing-related technologies by developing and discussing 
problem statements prior to reaching consensus, which can encourage proponents 
to request a BoF or recommend the formation of a new working group to the ADs. 
If the working group agrees to pursue a problem statement document, it will be 
added to the group’s milestones.

Please send your comments to the list before 12/2.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

=============================================================================================
The Routing Area Working Group (RTGWG) is chartered to provide a
venue to discuss, evaluate, support and develop proposals for
new work in the Routing Area. It may also work on specific small topics
that do not fit within any existing working groups. An example of such a
small topic is a draft that might otherwise be AD-sponsored but which
could benefit from the review and consensus that RTGWG can provide.

Options for handling new work include:
• Directing the work to an existing WG (including RTGWG)
• Developing a proposal for a BoF.
• Developing a charter and establishing consensus for a new WG. This
option will primarily be used for fairly mature and/or well-defined efforts.
• Conducting a careful evaluation, which may lead to deferring or rejecting 
work.

It is expected that the proposals for new work will only include items which
are not aligned with the work of other WGs or that may span multiple WGs.
The Area Directors and WG Chairs can provide guidance if there is any
doubt whether a topic should be discussed in RTGWG.

A major objective of the RTGWG is to provide timely and clear
dispositions of new efforts. Where there is consensus to take
on new work, the WG will strive to quickly find a suitable home for it.
Reconsideration of proposals which have failed to gather consensus
will be prioritized behind proposals for new work which have not
yet been considered. In general, requests for reconsideration
should only be made once a proposal has been significantly
revised.

If RTGWG decides that a particular topic should be addressed by
a new WG, the chairs will recommend the work to the Routing ADs
with a summary of the evaluation. The Routing ADs may then choose
to follow the normal IETF chartering process (potential BoF, IETF-wide
review of the proposed charter, etc.).

Guiding principles for the evaluation of new work by RTGWG will include:
1. Providing a clear problem statement for proposed new work.
2. Prioritizing new efforts to manage the trade-offs between urgency,
interest, and available resources in the Routing Area.
3. Identifying commonalities among ongoing efforts, which may indicate
the need to develop more general, reusable solutions.
4. Ensuring appropriate cross-WG and cross-area review.
5. Protecting the architectural integrity of the protocols developed
in the Routing Area and ensuring that work has significant applicability.

RTGWG may also work on specific small topics that do not fit within an existing
working group. An example of such a small topic is a draft that might otherwise
be AD-sponsored but which could benefit from the review and consensus that
RTGWG can provide.

RTGWG may work on larger topics, but must be explicitly rechartered to add it.
The specific larger topics that RTGWG is currently chartered to work on include:
• Enhancements to hop-by-hop distributed
routing (e.g., unicast and multicast routing, LDP/MPLS , Segment Routing)
related to fast convergence with a goal of fast-reroute mechanisms to provide
up to complete coverage when the potential failure would not partition the 
network.
All work in this area should be specifically evaluated by the WG in terms of
practicality and applicability to deployed networks.
• Routing related YANG models that are not within the scope of other RTG working
groups.
• Incubating new routing-related technologies by developing and discussing
problem statements prior to reaching consensus, which can encourage
proponents to request a BoF or recommend the formation of a new working group
to the ADs. If the working group agrees to pursue a problem statement document,
it will be added to the group’s milestones.

The working group milestones will be updated as needed to reflect the
proposals currently being worked on and the target dates for their
completion.



Disclaimer

This e-mail together with any attachments may contain information of Ribbon 
Communications Inc. and its Affiliates that is confidential and/or proprietary 
for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, disclosure, reliance or 
distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly 
prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender 
immediately and then delete all copies, including any attachments.

_______________________________________________
rtgwg mailing list -- rtgwg@ietf.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rtgwg-le...@ietf.org

Reply via email to