Hi Sasha,

Yes, your understanding is correct. If there are enough interests in the
WG, RTGWG may adopt a problem statement draft and work on it.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 3:36 AM Alexander Vainshtein <
alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com> wrote:

> Yingzhen,
>
> The proposed text looks fine with me, lots of thanks for the work done.
>
>
>
> For the sake of my curiosity: do I correctly understand that:
>
>    - Discussion of a problem statement assumes an individual draft as a
>    starting point
>    - WG decision to “pursue a problem statement document” effectively
>    would be expressed as adoption of the problem statement document?
>
>
>
> If my understanding above is correct, there is no need to add these
> clarifications to the Charter.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sasha
>
>
>
> *From:* Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.i...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 3:39 AM
> *To:* rtgwg@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [rtgwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter updates
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the review and comments.
>
> Please see the updated charter below this email, highlighting the changes:
>
>
>
> *Incubating new routing-related technologies by developing and discussing
> problem statements prior to reaching consensus, which can encourage
> proponents to request a BoF or recommend the formation of a new working
> group to the ADs. If the working group agrees to pursue a problem statement
> document, it will be added to the group’s milestones.*
>
>
>
> Please send your comments to the list before 12/2.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yingzhen
>
>
>
>
> =============================================================================================
>
> The Routing Area Working Group (RTGWG) is chartered to provide a
>
> venue to discuss, evaluate, support and develop proposals for
>
> new work in the Routing Area. It may also work on specific small topics
>
> that do not fit within any existing working groups. An example of such a
>
> small topic is a draft that might otherwise be AD-sponsored but which
>
> could benefit from the review and consensus that RTGWG can provide.
>
>
>
> Options for handling new work include:
>
> • Directing the work to an existing WG (including RTGWG)
>
> • Developing a proposal for a BoF.
>
> • Developing a charter and establishing consensus for a new WG. This
>
> option will primarily be used for fairly mature and/or well-defined
> efforts.
>
> • Conducting a careful evaluation, which may lead to deferring or
> rejecting work.
>
>
>
> It is expected that the proposals for new work will only include items
> which
>
> are not aligned with the work of other WGs or that may span multiple WGs.
>
> The Area Directors and WG Chairs can provide guidance if there is any
>
> doubt whether a topic should be discussed in RTGWG.
>
>
>
> A major objective of the RTGWG is to provide timely and clear
>
> dispositions of new efforts. Where there is consensus to take
>
> on new work, the WG will strive to quickly find a suitable home for it.
>
> Reconsideration of proposals which have failed to gather consensus
>
> will be prioritized behind proposals for new work which have not
>
> yet been considered. In general, requests for reconsideration
>
> should only be made once a proposal has been significantly
>
> revised.
>
>
>
> If RTGWG decides that a particular topic should be addressed by
>
> a new WG, the chairs will recommend the work to the Routing ADs
>
> with a summary of the evaluation. The Routing ADs may then choose
>
> to follow the normal IETF chartering process (potential BoF, IETF-wide
>
> review of the proposed charter, etc.).
>
>
>
> Guiding principles for the evaluation of new work by RTGWG will include:
>
> 1. Providing a clear problem statement for proposed new work.
>
> 2. Prioritizing new efforts to manage the trade-offs between urgency,
>
> interest, and available resources in the Routing Area.
>
> 3. Identifying commonalities among ongoing efforts, which may indicate
>
> the need to develop more general, reusable solutions.
>
> 4. Ensuring appropriate cross-WG and cross-area review.
>
> 5. Protecting the architectural integrity of the protocols developed
>
> in the Routing Area and ensuring that work has significant applicability.
>
>
>
> RTGWG may also work on specific small topics that do not fit within an
> existing
>
> working group. An example of such a small topic is a draft that might
> otherwise
>
> be AD-sponsored but which could benefit from the review and consensus that
>
> RTGWG can provide.
>
>
>
> RTGWG may work on larger topics, but must be explicitly rechartered to add
> it.
>
> The specific larger topics that RTGWG is currently chartered to work on
> include:
>
> • Enhancements to hop-by-hop distributed
>
> routing (e.g., unicast and multicast routing, LDP/MPLS , Segment Routing)
>
> related to fast convergence with a goal of fast-reroute mechanisms to
> provide
>
> up to complete coverage when the potential failure would not partition the
> network.
>
> All work in this area should be specifically evaluated by the WG in terms
> of
>
> practicality and applicability to deployed networks.
>
> • Routing related YANG models that are not within the scope of other RTG
> working
>
> groups.
>
> • Incubating new routing-related technologies by developing and discussing
>
> problem statements prior to reaching consensus, which can encourage
>
> proponents to request a BoF or recommend the formation of a new working
> group
>
> to the ADs. If the working group agrees to pursue a problem statement
> document,
>
> it will be added to the group’s milestones.
>
>
>
> The working group milestones will be updated as needed to reflect the
>
> proposals currently being worked on and the target dates for their
>
> completion.
>
>
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