At least I will escape to reviewers comments because of a Checkcif alert C :

PLAT241 Type_2 Test for unusually high U(eq) as compared with bonded neighbours

Using the B3+ scattering factors instead of neutral B ones, the Boron thermal parameter

decreased from 6.5 to 2.2 A**2.

Armel



envoyé : 22 mars 2025 à 20:03
de : Masciocchi Norberto <norberto.mascioc...@uninsubria.it>
à : Le Bail Armel <le-bail.ar...@orange.fr>, Matthew Rowles <rowle...@gmail.com>
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objet : Re: B3+


While the availability of the scattering factor for B3+ is certainly a novelty (at least for me), one should be aware that, even in BF4 (where highly electronegative F atoms are bound to Boron), the bonding is mostrly covalent, and may contain a non-negligible contribution of pi-pi backdonation.
This said, modeling BF4 from scattering data is a difficult task, as non harmonic adps  and disorder often dominate.
Norberto 


From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr <rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr> on behalf of Le Bail Armel <le-bail.ar...@orange.fr>
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Subject: Re: B3+
 

Thanks a lot !

Armel

envoyé : 22 mars 2025 à 17:26
de : Matthew Rowles <rowle...@gmail.com>
à : Luca Lutterotti <luca.luttero...@unitn.it>
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objet : Re: B3+


Try https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/iucr/doi/10.1107/S2053273323010550

And

https://journals.iucr.org/paper?ae5125

Matthew


On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, 15:47 Luca Lutterotti, <luca.luttero...@unitn.it> wrote:
Nope, I checked what I have and I use Xraylib now in Maud but also there is only B neutral. Maybe someone can calculate them?

Ciao Luca

 



Luca Lutterotti

Dipartimento di Ingegneria Industriale
Università di Trento
via Sommarive, 9 - 38123 Trento (Italy)
tel. +39 0461 2824-14 (Office), -
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On 19 Mar 2025, at 20:58, Le Bail Armel <le-bail.ar...@orange.fr> wrote:

Hello,

Any parametrized X-ray scattering factor for B3+ somewhere ?

A case with [BF4] tetrahedra.

Thanks !

Armel

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