My review of Mittemeijer’s book seems to have excited interest in the history of the “Rietveld” method. I, myself, recall using Alan’s modified program (incorporating anisotropic displacement parameters, a welcome addition) in the early days and I saw that many Rietveld programs also contained this original code. Alan should have received much more recognition for this.
How about getting together and writing an article on the history of the program for the IUCr Newsletter? You could discuss the controversy there too for a larger audience. The Newsletter is read by more than 13500 people, and I encourage including controversy. Regards Mike Professor A.M. Glazer Department of Physics Parks Road Oxford OX1 3PU Tel/Fax: 44 1865 272290 Mobile: 0778 696 0537 ****************************************** Emeritus Professor of Physics and Emeritus Fellow of Jesus College Oxford Visiting Professor at the University of Warwick Crystallographer Editor of the Newsletter of the IUCr https://www.iucr.org/news/newsletter ****************************************** "Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land". W.Churchill, Sword Beach Memorial. " Je ne te parlerai que cristaux" L. Pasteur (1850) Video of my Bragg Lecture at the Royal Institution is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9bMEUr2II4 with questions at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsPBB6azzX4 From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr <rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr> On Behalf Of Alan W Hewat Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 5:40 PM To: Le Bail Armel <le-bail.ar...@orange.fr> Cc: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Rietveld condamnation considered as established by some more people Armel, it's not about you :-) But in your 1988 paper you did not reference Pawley (1980) and even Rietveld only appeared as #14 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228084768_Ab_Initio_Structure_Determination_of_LiSbWO6_by_X_ray_Powder_Diffraction#fullTextFileContent But let's not change the subject. You have published comments, linked to in your opening post, accusing respected scientists of "Calumny... towards a dead man who cannot defend himself". Simply because people who have direct experience of the history (which is often about dead men) do not agree with you. And yes, Columbus did not discover America either, but he contributed. Be content with contributing, and let it go. Regards Alan ________________________________ Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics Grenoble, FRANCE (from phone) alan.he...@neutronoptics.com<mailto:alan.he...@neutronoptics.com> +33.476984168 VAT:FR79499450856 http://NeutronOptics.com/hewat _______________________________ On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, 17:49 Le Bail Armel, <le-bail.ar...@orange.fr<mailto:le-bail.ar...@orange.fr>> wrote: >And there are other examples. See this brief review of "Whole Pattern Fitting >- The Pawley Method" (1980) yet few people now attribute this kind of profile >refinement to Pawley. http://pd.chem.ucl.ac.uk/pdnn/solve1/pawley.htm Few people ? At least me : https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/iucr/itc/Ha/ch3o5v0001/sec3o5o2o2o1/? And 2168 papers cite the 1980 Pawley paper according to Google Scholar as of today. Be more clear. What are exactly those other examples ? ALB
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