On 12/19/18 8:31 PM, Gould, James wrote:
> Gurshabad,
> 
> Your proposed Privacy Considerations section and much of your proposed Human 
> Rights Considerations section focuses on the interface of the VSP, which is 
> out-of-scope for draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode.  The scope of 
> draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode is on the structure of the digitally 
> signed verification code, that represents proof of verification, and the 
> interface between the client (registrar) and the server (registry) to pass 
> the verification code.  The role of the VSP is defined, but the VSP interface 
> and the concrete verifications is by design left out of 
> draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode, and therefore is out-of-scope.  Niels 
> support for inclusion based on “causation, and more specifically the priority 
> events” is beyond the scope of draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode and is not 
> applicable.  We need to ensure to keep the technical and considerations text 
> strictly focused on the defined scope of the draft.
>   
So if the verification code is a verification that X happened, your argument is 
that the verification code technically has nothing to do with X ? 

I am sorry but that is pretty far fetched imho. I am not sure whether the 
author can declare this out-of-scope.

Best,

Niels

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> On 12/19/18, 5:22 AM, "regext on behalf of Gurshabad Grover" 
> <regext-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of gursha...@cis-india.org> wrote:
> 
>     On 19/12/18 2:34 AM, Andrew Newton wrote:
>     > 
>     > I thought the token was passed by the EPP client (registrar) to the
>     > EPP server (registry), the purpose of which is to show that the
>     > verification occurred before the transaction.
>     > 
>     
>     Thanks for pointing that out. A better way to phrase my concern would
>     have been that the extension's functioning is dependent on data being
>     shared with the VSP. The draft does describe some (not all of the
>     necessary) aspects of that data sharing.
>     
>     Agree that the text could have been more accurate in reflecting that.
>     Changes are incorporated below (will review the HRC section again in
>     this light as well); for now, hope this reads better:
>     
>     Privacy Considerations
>     ----------------------
>     The working of the described extension depends on the sharing of data of
>     (or generated by) registrants with the Verification Service Provider
>     (VSP), which is a third party. The specification leaves the scope of
>     information shared with and stored by the VSP up to the policies of the
>     locality. There may be no mechanisms for registrants to express
>     preference for what information should shared with the VSP, in which
>     case, registrants' sensitive personal information directly linked to the
>     identities of the individual, such as contained in the contact mapping
>     object, may be exposed to the VSP without user control. This personal
>     information may be further correlated with other data sources available
>     to the VSP.
>     
>     If a client seeks to implement or offer this extension, it MUST inform
>     the registrant about about the exact information to be shared with the 
> VSP.
>     
>     
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