I use 2/0 mainly because the 4 kw SW and Outback 24v inverters usually have a 175A or a greater breaker where I go 4/0. This allows the user to have some flexibility down the line. 24v bat cable loss is a higher issue also with pump surges. The pre-made cables from AEE ">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [1] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [2] text 209 813 0060
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 11:27:36 -0400, Tump wrote: Seems like over kill and I too am wondering why use anything but UL listed wire. I always use tinned cable from Cobra. They have the "X FLEX" and the "X FLEX 150" the X flex #2AWG is good for 213 Amps 2/0 is good for 336 Amps. The X FLEX 150 #2AWG is good for 255 and the 2/0 is good for 390 Amps. Let me know off list if you wold like my sales rep, Good quick service. T On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Glenn Burt wrote: Okay I have to ask, why wouldn't you want to stick to code compliant battery cabling? FROM: RE-wrenches ON BEHALF OF peter...@pobox.com [5] SENT: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:18 PM TO: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [6] SUBJECT: [RE-wrenches] Ampacity Ratings for Different Conductors I have been designing a off-grid system that can fit in an outside-accessible compartment with an approximate 24" square footprint and space above about 18" - 24". I am using two Battle Born LiFePO4 batteries rated at 24 V / 50 Ah, a Cotek pure sine wave inverter with an output power of 4,000 VA , a MorningStar TS-MPPT-60 charge controller, a Victron BMV-712 "coulomb counter" and a Battle Born surge limiter CL500. The current limiter limits the current to 120 continuous, and 200 A for 30 sec. I have been able to fit everything in and I am designing the cabling, and here is my problem. I have one vendor that recommends Ancor brand Tinned Marine Grade Battery Cable. It is "resistant to salt water, battery acid, oil, gasoline, heat, abrasion and ultra-violet radiation. Exceeds UL 1426, ABYC and US Coast Guard Charter boat (CFR Title 46) standards. Highest quality ultra-flexible (Type 3) tinned copper stranding. Vinyl insulation. -50 deg-C to 105 deg-C." 2 AWG is composed of 665 ea 30 AWG stands. The same vendor has "welding cable" with an EPDM insulation rated at 600 V, water/chemical/grease/abrasion resistant, -50 deg-C to 105 deg-C, "marine grade". Not UL listed. 624 ea 30 AWG strands. Roughly comparable pricing. They claim both 2 AWG cables are rated at 210 A. Not sure if this is continuous duty or whether I should derate this for what will be continuous duty. This is new territory for me, and any help would be appreciated. Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D. President, California Solar Engineering _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [7] Change listserver email address font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [9] List rules font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org [11] WWW.SWNL.NET [12] Solarwinds Northernlights _ _ _ SERVING MID COAST MAINE "> _ 207-832-7574 CL. 610-517-8401 _ _ __BLAIR "TUMP" MAY_ ******** MAINE'S CHARTER ******** _ __ NABCEP "CERTIFIED PV INSTALLER"_ ******** MAINE'S CHARTER ******** _ TRACE XANTREX "CERTIFIED" DEALER / INSTALLER"_ Links: ------ [1] http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [2] mailto:offgridso...@sti.net [3] mailto:glenn.b...@glbcc.com [4] mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [5] mailto:peter...@pobox.com [6] mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [7] mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [8] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [9] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [10] http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm [11] http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/ [12] http://webmail.sti.net/blocked::http://www.swnl.net/%22%20%5Co%20%22blocked::http://www.swnl.net/
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