I third what Ray says.

It is also my understanding that Tesla does not allow their installers to
be "subs".

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 10:16 AM Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I second what Ray says
> Jerry
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 12:49 PM Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
>
>> There are so many really good Li Iron Phosphate Batteries available, that
>> are actually designed for off grid, that I don't see any advantage to using
>> a more unstable chemistry that is not designed for off grid.   AC coupled
>> is a 2nd huge no no for off grid, and can leave an unattended system
>> completely inoperable.  Anytime the main battery inverter shuts off for any
>> of several reasons: overload, overtemp, low battery, etc., it also means
>> that all charging of the system ceases as well.
>>
>> For Off grid, reliability is absolutely #1, and owner safety is directly
>> related to that reliability.  They can lose water, heat, refrigeration, and
>> communications in an outage.  I'm just tired of  folks dabbling in off
>> grid, and not taking it seriously.  Why in the world would someone even
>> consider using a product that its own manufacturer says should not be used
>> off grid?
>>
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>>
>> On 7/19/20 10:54 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:
>>
>> Hilton, Wrenches
>> As I recall Tesla does not recommend their battery for off grid
>> applications, they need to be connected to the internet and without that
>> there may be warranty issues. I don't think that the off grid world and
>> daily cycling would work well over time either. How would you jump start
>> the power wall if it died do to low voltage cut out, a genny might work if
>> it connects and stays connected this might also affect the warranty.
>> Jerry
>> NABCEP PV inspector
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:02 AM Hilton Dier III <hiltond...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings, Wrenches,
>>>
>>> I have an off-grid client who has been reading the buzz about the Tesla
>>> Powerwall 2.0. I have been reading the data sheets and manual for it and it
>>> appears to be AC coupled only. There was talk of a DC input version, but
>>> apparently that fell by the wayside. I try to be agnostic about technology,
>>> and I'd be willing to subcontract a Tesla-approved installer if, in fact,
>>> this was the best solution.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have experience using the Powerwall 2.0 in an off grid PV
>>> system? Is it AC coupled only? Can it take generator power without barfing?
>>> What is the lead time on these?
>>>
>>> Many Thanks,
>>>
>>> Hilton
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hilton Dier III
>>> Missisquoi River Hydro
>>> Renewable Energy Design
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