Use a genset for back-up and power it as you said from 240vac inverter.
Less is more and a failed DD-DC converter could damage the SQ! 

Dave
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 04:31:25 +0000, Tom Duffy  wrote:   
 

Why don't you go solar direct no batteries? and use AC for your back up
as the pump will do both. My experience says at least 60VDC to run the pump
so 24 volt battery won't do it. 

Kind regards 

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FROM: RE-wrenches  ON BEHALF OF
Gary Higbee
 SENT: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 12:18 PM
 TO:
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
 SUBJECT: [RE-wrenches] DC-DC converter
for SQFlex   

Hi Wrenches,  

I'm assisting a customer and well person in
replacing a failed Lorentz ETApump (after 15 years of intermittent use).
We're looking for a quality DC-DC converter to power a not-yet- ordered
Grundfos SQFlex 6 SQF-3 from a 24 V Surrette battery bank (wish it was
48!). The pump draws a max of 8.4A and the curves say we'll need about 600
watts so I figure we'd want at least 70 volts out. Ideal would be a higher
DC output, say 200V (save a couple hundred feet of larger copper, greater
efficiency) and at least 3A (see questions).   

The primary power source
will be 240V AC but my customer wants a fallback for battery operation. We
plan to use the Grundfos IO 101 SQFlex switch box, which will switch to DC
if the AC fails. Also the CU 200 SQFlex control unit, so we can accommodate
the existing float switch up the hill, etc.    

The Grundfos tech person I
spoke with today said the DC system should be able to supply 8.4A,
regardless of the DC voltage.The pump curve says we need 600W for maximum
performance at the lift we've got. It seems to me that if we've got 200V
and need 600W we'd be drawing 3A. Yet if the Grundfos factory line is there
should be 8.4A available that's 1680W. The tech guy said he didn't have
specific information why we'd need 8.4A regardless of pump input voltage.  


The Grundfos Product Guide says:   

MAX. RATINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS:    

*
MAXIMUM POWER INPUT (P1) OF 1400 W   

* MAXIMUM CURRENT OF 8.4 A   

*
MAXIMUM SPEED OF 3600 RPM (think I read somewhere it's 3000 rpm for this
helical rotor model)   

THE PUMP DELIVERS ITS MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE WHEN ONE
OF THE ABOVE PARAMETERS IS REACHED.    

Two questions:   

1) Do any of
you have experience running the SQFlex on DC, and what to make of the 8.4A
at any input voltage factory recommendation? Maybe basic amps/volts/power
calculations aren't applicable given the pump electronics?   

2) Are you
aware of any DC-DC converters that will get us from a nominal 24V battery
bank to 200V, or somewhere between 70 and 200V, with an appropriate current
limiting amp rating to get us at least 600W (depending on thoughts
regarding the above question)?   

Thank you,   

Gary   

Gary Higbee

Windstream Solar
 Oregon License 17LRT
 Renewable Energy Consulting

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