Wrenches,

Thanks, all, for your responses. This recently retired ER Doc customer does 
have an inverter system (old SW’s, one not so good on the scope). Grid and also 
two generators, Wanted a DC solution also. I like the Grundfos pumps so far, 
not their opinion to double the battery bank so it’s 48 and use their charge 
controller. I see their expertise is AC only, or PV-direct DC. Yes, there’s 
likely a DC-DC solution, somewhere out there, and it can be worked out given 
enough money and research. Seems Grundfos somewhat admits this. Good pump no 
matter, it seems. AC or PV-direct.

Take care,

Gary

Gary Higbee
Windstream Solart
g...@windstreamsolar.com
541-954-3881


> On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Gary Higbee <g...@windstreamsolar.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wrenches,
> 
> I’m assisting a customer and well person in replacing a failed Lorentz 
> ETApump (after 15 years of intermittent use). We’re looking for a quality 
> DC-DC converter to power a not-yet- ordered Grundfos SQFlex 6 SQF-3 from a 24 
> V Surrette battery bank (wish it was 48!). The pump draws a max of 8.4A and 
> the curves say we’ll need about 600 watts so I figure we’d want at least 70 
> volts out. Ideal would be a higher DC output, say 200V (save a couple hundred 
> feet of larger copper, greater efficiency) and at least 3A (see questions).
> 
> The primary power source will be 240V AC but my customer wants a fallback for 
> battery operation. We plan to use the Grundfos IO 101 SQFlex switch box, 
> which will switch to DC if the AC fails. Also the CU 200 SQFlex control unit, 
> so we can accommodate the existing float switch up the hill, etc.
> 
> The Grundfos tech person I spoke with today said the DC system should be able 
> to supply 8.4A, regardless of the DC voltage.The pump curve says we need 600W 
> for maximum performance at the lift we’ve got. It seems to me that if we’ve 
> got 200V and need 600W we’d be drawing 3A. Yet if the Grundfos factory line 
> is there should be 8.4A available that’s 1680W. The tech guy said he didn’t 
> have specific information why we’d need 8.4A regardless of pump input 
> voltage. 
> 
> The Grundfos Product Guide says:
> 
> Max. ratings are as follows:
> • Maximum power input (P1) of 1400 W
> • maximum current of 8.4 A
> • maximum speed of 3600 rpm (think I read somewhere it’s 3000 rpm for this 
> helical rotor model)
> 
> The pump delivers its maximum performance when one of the above parameters is 
> reached.
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1) Do any of you have experience running the SQFlex on DC, and what to make 
> of the 8.4A at any input voltage factory recommendation? Maybe basic 
> amps/volts/power calculations aren’t applicable given the pump electronics?
> 
> 2) Are you aware of any DC-DC converters that will get us from a nominal 24V 
> battery bank to 200V, or somewhere between 70 and 200V, with an appropriate 
> current limiting amp rating to get us at least 600W (depending on thoughts 
> regarding the above question)?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Gary
> 
> Gary Higbee
> Windstream Solar
> Oregon License 17LRT
> Renewable Energy Consulting
> g...@windstreamsolar.com <mailto:g...@windstreamsolar.com>
> 541-954-3881

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