Jerry, can we see the egauge results? On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:59 PM, Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wrenches > We have been doing testing on the Blue Ion over the last several months, > we have been using PV, back up grid connected charger, we have CT's on DC > in, PV in, Charger in, and Load out, some days we push to three cycles a > day, other days 1/2 cycle. The Blue Ion BMU has done well keeping > everything in control including a relay for the charger. Eguage has done > all the monitoring and has some impressive data. > Jerry > > On Feb 20, 2018 6:02 AM, "Kirpal" <solarwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Larry....yes those are big claims (8000 cyclces at 100% DOD!) No I don't >> have the data showing that, nor have I seen it. But the marketing has to >> be accurate right?! We have installed a few systems with a few more on the >> books including one at our office. Will be interesting to see if the real >> world matches the lab tests....I don't have a copy of their warranty but it >> is for 15 years and does allow for some degradation of capacity, 70% >> remaining after 15 years. Pretty robust for a battery warranty! From what >> I have seen they are a strong off grid option. Could be one of the last >> battery banks some of our customers ever buy. The visibility into cycle >> count and remaining capacity is refreshing after using various amp hour >> meters which tend to wander in accuracy over time. I am looking forward to >> the migration away from Lead Acid in the years ahead! >> >> >> Sunny Regards, >> Kirpal Khalsa >> Oregon LRT#25 >> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional >> Oregon Solarworks LLC >> www.oregonsolarworks.com >> 541-299-0402 <(541)%20299-0402> >> >> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems < >> la...@starlightsolar.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kirpal, >>> >>> “...8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of >>> discharge…” >>> I saw that on their website but there is no substantiating data from >>> real cycle life tests. When Sony introduced this battery, they claimed >>> 2000 cycles at 80% DoD. For such an extraordinary claim, there must be a >>> catch. Do you have any information about testing or a copy of their >>> warranty? >>> >>> >>> Larry Crutcher >>> Starlight Solar Power Systems >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Kirpal <solarwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Blue Planet - Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are a good option for off >>> grid and work very well with the Outback Radian inverters. They are rated >>> at 8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge and >>> can be monitored remotely. The batteries , like in the Sonnen system are >>> made by Sony. >>> The company was just down in PR doing some installs and had some very >>> good feedback from local installers. >>> One more option for the tool bag. >>> Also, Outback just released a white paper on AC coupling using a solid >>> state relay into the Radian. So they are now providing some guidance on >>> this as of just recently. I still prefer DC coupling with grid tied mode >>> when the grid does come back around. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sunny Regards, >>> Kirpal Khalsa >>> Oregon LRT#25 >>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional >>> Oregon Solarworks LLC >>> www.oregonsolarworks.com >>> 541-299-0402 <(541)%20299-0402> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings Wrenches; >>>> >>>> We are designing several systems for Puerto Rico, and while these will >>>> eventually could be grid tied once the grid returns, they will need to >>>> operate reliably in off grid mode possibly for a year or more. What is >>>> everyone's experiences with the Storedge and LG setup? I've worked with >>>> the regular Solaredge GT system and was quite impressed, but I've heard the >>>> Storedge is not a good off grid option. What are the issues, and has >>>> anyone used the Storedge in longer term outages? >>>> >>>> Right now we are designing some smaller systems that will use Magnum >>>> inverters with 24v and 48 v Li+ batteries from other manufacturers, like >>>> Simpliphi and LiFe Blue. ( No GT, Backup only) These are lower cost and >>>> allow us to use more traditional off grid designs, but also have limited >>>> charge and discharge current. In order to make Li+ cost effective, we have >>>> had to reduce the storage size in half compared to lead acid. We feel this >>>> is justifiable considering Li+'s ability to be discharged to 100%, its >>>> voltage stability, and its higher efficiency. >>>> >>>> All feed back is welcome, as we venture into less well charted >>>> territory. We just don't want to set up systems that are going to not be >>>> functional in 5 to 8 years because of inferior AGM lead acid batteries. We >>>> use HUP batteries for most larger off grid systems, but these are not >>>> feasible because of their size and maintenance requirements. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Ray Walters >>>> >>>> Remote Solar >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>> >>>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>>> >>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>> >>>> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re >>>> -wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >>>> >>>> List rules & etiquette: >>>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>>> >>>> Check out or update participant bios: >>>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re >>> -wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re >>> -wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re >> -wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches. > org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > >
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