Test data is important. If you check out most Li battery brands, they copy each 
other: “2000 cycles with 80% remaining.” Like Clara Peller said in 1984, “ 
Where’s the beef?”

One brand of Li battery that we sell, LiFeBlue, has published actual test data 
for their cells (Topband). At 1C rate and 100% DoD, they produced over 2800 
cycles and had 83% remaining capacity. Extrapolate to 8000 cycles and that 
would mean 48.5% remaining capacity if degradation remained linear.  However, 
we are in fantasy land here due to the unknown affects of battery aging on one 
hand and the fact that no one will use a battery like that on the other. 
Besides, in a decade or so, will Li-ion battery cost make lead batteries a 
relic?

IMO, lead is dead…or at least dying…slowly. 

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems




On Feb 20, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Kirpal <[email protected]> wrote:

Larry....yes those are big claims (8000 cyclces at 100% DOD!)  No I don't have 
the data showing that, nor have I seen it.  But the marketing has to be 
accurate right?!  We have installed a few systems with a few more on the books 
including one at our office. Will be interesting to see if the real world 
matches the lab tests....I don't have a copy of their warranty but it is for 15 
years and does allow for some degradation of capacity,  70% remaining after 15 
years.  Pretty robust for a battery warranty!  From what I have seen they are a 
strong off grid option.  Could be one of the last battery banks some of our 
customers ever buy.  The visibility into cycle count and remaining capacity is 
refreshing after using various amp hour meters which tend to wander in accuracy 
over time.  I am looking forward to the migration away from Lead Acid in the 
years ahead! 


Sunny Regards,
Kirpal Khalsa
Oregon LRT#25
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Oregon Solarworks LLC
www.oregonsolarworks.com <http://www.oregonsolarworks.com/>
541-299-0402
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