Chris, Yes, this is a good point. The QT series from Generac is a great machine and pricing is better than any other machine in that size that I've seen. Is there an off-grid warranty on the QT series?
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Chris Mason <cometenergysyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > What about the Generac QT commercial units. Liquid cooled, enclosed, sold > engines, inexpensive. > For diesel, the Generac protector series meets your requirements. > For mobile, generac acquired Magnum, they have some beautiful models. > On May 4, 2016 20:27, "jay" <jay.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Allan, > > I was at our new Kohler dealer today. They had a trailer mounted, propane > water cooled 25kw with fuel storage and sound enclosure, really nice > machine, but it was $29,000 > > Its kind of weird that there isn’t anything in the lower sizes that is > water cooled, good quality, in propane anyway. > > jay > > peltz power > > On May 4, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Allan Sindelar <al...@sindelarsolar.com> > wrote: > > Lena and all, > I was watching this thread closely, as I have shared your concerns and I > was hoping to hear of any new solutions. In this thread I hear of Gillette > (always positively over the years that this question has come up), one > 5.5kW Onan RV set (120V only and too small for all but an Outback VFX at > close to sea level), and Hardy diesel units. I have nothing to add to these > suggestions. > > I went out on a limb a few years ago in suggesting the Generac EcoGen, > hoping that this would fill this need and restore Generac as a worthy name. > I think now I have to just say "eh..." - yes, it works, but too many > problems have been noted here, and Generac's dealer support system is > poorly suited to the off grid market. > > Thank you to all who replied. > Allan > > *Allan Sindelar* > <al...@sindelarsolar.com>al...@sindelarsolar.com > NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional > NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc. > *505 780-2738 <505%20780-2738> cell* > > > On 4/28/2016 10:19 AM, Lena Wilensky wrote: > > I did some searches on the list for what folks are doing for off-grid > propane generators these days, but all the threads I found were from 5-6 > yrs ago, so I was hoping to get some more current info. > > We're looking for about a 10kw+ propane unit (big derate at altitude), and > we run into 2 main problem areas: > > First is the warranty - either there are no units warranteed for off-grid > use, or there are only a couple of models and the warranty is short (1 > year). > > Second, and perhaps larger, is all the loads that now come with the > "off-grid" units. The computer takes some, but mostly the "cold weather > kit" aka carb heater must be installed in our climate (to actually start, > but also for warrantee), and it's set up to be on a thermostat (read: "on > all the time from Nov-April" here in the mountains). According to the > Kohler tech support it takes a steady 50W. We have set up older units to do > battery charge only during the day, and have the carb heater on a manual > switch, but it sounds like we can't really get at these circuits anymore > since they're all pre-configured and pre-wired in the guts of the genset > computer. > > The Kohler and Onan support folks said both these issues are due to EPA > considering off-grid use as prime power as opposed to standby, so they are > held to tougher emissions standards. > > Whatever the reasons, we're wondering what people are actually doing these > days - still the standby units they kind-of warrantee for off-grid? 12RES > from Kohler and the 13kw unit from Onan? Generac? Have folks been going > back to the smaller gas units from Honda and running them more? And how > are cold climate folks dealing with the heating issue? > > Any suggestions appreciated! > > Lena Wilensky > > www.nunatakenergy.com > 970-642-5554 > NABCEP Certified PV Installer: > Cert. #R02907-17 > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & > settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette:www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios:www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Mac Lewis *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates*
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