All of my enphase failure are in the desert (Utah)

We have had Power-one units in the field for 5 or 6 years.


- Troy Harvey



On May 9, 2013, at 10:28 AM, August Goers <aug...@luminalt.com> wrote:

> This is fascinating - the majority of the Enphase failures reported on this 
> list seem to be near coastal areas. I know that is true for us. We've had 
> extensive failures on the M190 and M210 units close to the ocean. We have yet 
> to have a single M215 failure so I have my fingers crossed.
>  
> SMA has continued to be the most reliable for us but I worry that slowly 
> their fans will fail. The first gen Fronius units have been horribly 
> unreliable and have all been replaced. Fronius was excellent in dealing with 
> the warranty claims. The 2nd Gen Fronius have been pretty good with just a 
> couple of units DOA and no long term failures yet. Power One, which is the 
> most interesting to me, is still too new to judge. We've had two Power One 
> failures so far. I understand that the first 10 and 12 k units sold in the US 
> had really bad problems but those are fixed now. Xantrex was horrible but we 
> still have over 100 units in operation after the capacitor recall.
>  
> It's a real crapshoot with all these inverters!
>  
> Best,
>  
> August
>  
> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mike & 
> Jessica Nelson
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:45 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase / Inverter failures
>  
> Wrenches,
> I have had extensive failures on 3 installs that are situated right on the 
> coastal bluff in Northern California. Once you replace more than one inverter 
> at one site on one day, the compensation goes from $150.00 per inverter, to 
> next to nothing for the remaining. Enphase actually sent out their field 
> services tech, and did a complete swap out on these 3 systems (with my 
> assistance). It was a long day. But now, 2 years later, we are seeing more 
> failures. One has had 4 micro failures to date. Once I get away from the 
> coastal edge, with it's corrosive effect, the failure rate goes way down. I 
> have asked Enphase to upgrade these 3 systems to the newer M215 system, and 
> am still waiting for a response. I am to the point where I won't install 
> Enphase within 1/2 mile of the ocean.
> Michael D. Nelson
> MD Electric & Solar
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Will White <william.wh...@realgoods.com> 
> wrote:
> It’s funny because I’ve had a very different experience from everyone else.  
> I’ve had lots of Xantrex inverters fail and a few Fronius but not to the 
> extent that everyone else has.  I’ve only replaced a few Enphase inverters 
> and they were usually dead out of the box.
>  
> Thanks,
> Will
>  
> __________________________________________________________________________________________
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>  
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> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Troy Harvey
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:06 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase / Inverter failures
>  
>  
> I don't enjoy the PLC interference problems, which are rare. When they have 
> occurred, Enphase provided continuous technical support, including factory 
> evaluation of line filters and enhanced system analysis.  Did you know that 
> each Enphase system has a built in spectrum analyzer? Tech support can 
> provide a printout of interfering signals to help in troubleshooting. 
> Installing a separate AC load center to accept the AC return breakers helps 
> with solving these problems.  I understand that the next release of Enphase 
> inverters will be Wi-fi, eliminating the PLC protocol entirely.  When the 
> communication works, (which it does most of the time) it is a very valuable 
> resource.
>  
> I find we have several times the service calls on enphase due to the 
> customers thinking their system isn't working, when in fact it the flakey PLC 
> network. And all that monitoring is only really telling me about the 
> inverters or their networking, since the long term failure rate of the panels 
> is several orders of magnitude better than even the best inverter on the 
> market.
>  
> I have only seen 2 Xantrex string inverters go out in the last 5 years (no 
> surprise there) out of all of the string inverters, and all of the brands. 
> But I've seen failure at everyone of our Enphase installs, and usually 
> failures every year (1 or 2 dead micros per year per site).
>  
> There is no argument that micros improve flexibility. And the potential for a 
> micro to have a higher MTBF is believable. But first they need better design, 
> more market experience, and will never reach 25 year lifespan like they say 
> until they take electrolytic caps out of their designs.
>  
> thanks,
> 
> Troy Harvey
> ---------------------
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> Heliocentric
> 801-453-9434
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