Darryl Thayer wrote:
That is a good question, I have not an answer, but of course it should be based on the amp hour of the battery bank, absorb charging voltage, and of course the charging source in the case of generators. Following Ron's advise start at C/5 for SOC less than 50% then C/10 till about 70% SOC and then C/15 till 80% then C/20 to 90 %. the problem we have no way to set these values, Perhaps Ron could give is a routine? The closet to SOC charging is the Outback and then the Magnum but both miss the goal.

I would also be interested to hear Ron's answer to this, but I would think that if you measure the current and Specific Gravity together, during absorption , when the proper fully charged SG specification is reached, you would have your RA answer.

Or, darn near close to it.

boB









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    From: Dana <d...@solarwork.com>
    Subject: [RE-wrenches] RETURN AMP SETTING
    To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
    Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 5:54 PM

    As the % of full charge is related to the of degree absorption &
    gravity [the denser & more charged acid descending, and lighter
    acid rising] @ what point in the absorption would be prudent to
    stop charging?

    I used to cut off the charge on the Trace SW series at 12 “return
    amps”, VS. the factory default I think was at 5 amps.  This has &
    continues to work well but I never had anyone really answer this
    function clearly.

    Is there a battery manufacturer  or wrench that would care to
comment on the:
    The minimum “Return” amps to disconnect for a “full” charge?

    OR

    The time required per 100 AHR after reaching the Absorption point
    setting for the mix to occur?

    I realize that battery construction, battery condition, age and
    temperature and the current power usage will also play into this
    factor and it may not be a simple answer.

     Dana Orzel

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    *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
    [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of
    *Mark Frye
    *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:25 PM
    *To:* al...@positiveenergysolar.com; 'RE-wrenches'
    *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator, Dual Outback Inverters

    Allen,

    Can I infer that if you are shutting off the gen before charge
    rates drop in absorption that you are running only briefly in the
    absorb phase? Or do your charge currents remain high through out
    an extended absortion phase?

    Perhaps you have plenty of PV which you rely upon to bring the
    batteries up through the absorption phase, once the gen is shut off.

    I would be interest to learn more about your approach to this.

    Thanks,

Mark Frye
    Berkeley Solar Electric Systems
    303 Redbud Way
    Nevada City,  CA 95959
    (530) 401-8024
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    [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of
    *Allan Sindelar
    *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:17 PM
    *To:* re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
    *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator, Dual Outback Inverters

    The Onan RS20000 shown in the generators article in HP 131 page 98
    has performed flawlessly as backup support to an Outback
    quad-stack of VFX3648s. Differences, however, are that this 20kW
    gennie charges four inverters, rather than two; the elevation is
    6,600 feet for about a 20% output deration; there are no huge
    loads above charging draw; and the client is aware enough to shut
    it off before absorption reduces the charge rate - all different
    conditions than you have described, as the gennie is usually fully
    loaded and running in balance.

    Darryl is right about the amount of words necessary.

    *Allan** Sindelar*
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    *Positive Energy, Inc.*
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