I was recently told by SMA that in the event that the inverters did connect to generator output, and the load was less than the inverter output, that the voltage would rise and the inverters would fall off line. A year or so before I'd been told by another SMA representative that generator circuit boards had been fried by inverter backfeed.

It would  be very good to get to the bottom of this one.

At 10:10 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote:
Hi folks:
    (Eric, by 'directly to the utility grid' I do mean with a breaker)
Jason and Allen, I agree with what you are saying, in theory, but in practice, it is not always possible. I am installing a generator in a couple of weeks for a customer with an existing 9 KW array. The property's main service is located at a separate building from the house, loads, and solar. The main panel feeds 200 Amps to the main residence and 200 Amps to a barn building (300 ft away) The barn building has the array at it, and also the well pump, which needs to be backed up by the generator. This requires us to either dig a 300' trench or just leave the system in auto. We will be utilizing a 200A Automatic Transfer Switch, but we will not be able to place the generator into Auto mode. The customer understands the situation, and said that he would leave the genny in 'manual' start mode. I feed good about the situation, will disable the auto-start system, and will provide competent labelling.

Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell: 707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax: 707-769-9037



From: Jason Szumlanski <ja...@fafcosolar.com>
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:50:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

This is déjà vu.

I would say that the only safe and "correct" way is to connect the PV inverter output on the line side of the transfer switch. If you are on the generator side of the xfer switch, you are asking for trouble. The only other choice would be to use a contactor to ensure PV disconnection when the grid is down - then you could tap the PV on the load side of the transfer switch.

And to answer Eric's #1 question in the original post, you may not need to resize/replace the panel if you follow this approach. We go with a line side tap in this scenario unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise.

Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar
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