I think those are all good points, Pete. When this topic popped up, it struck me that I didn't want to skew the conversation by talking about my own bias towards the Quickbeam design. It seemed to me (and still does) that the Quickbeam/Simpleone is one of the great designs that Grant has come up with - containing those things which are needed, but little else. Of course, in the years since that first announcement appeared, there have been a number of trends which have come and gone or arrived and stayed. It's incredibly easy to get large volume 622/700C tires, both smooth and treaded. Longer stays are not an outlier. Racks and useful bags more commonplace. Recently swept-back bars and mixte-acceptability have edged into the common arena.
So, with those facets gaining more proponents, my thought was really to see if any of them have become more "have-to-have" features. With ~2500 addresses in this group, even if EVERYONE who ever bought a 'Beam or a 'One is here, that means that ~2100 of them didn't. If there's some reason why, other than a lack of derailleur, it would be interesting if that popped up. None of which may matter, as GP might already have ideas nailed down, lugs, tubes and angles spec'd. But, I will pass trends and comments (both here and the private thoughts and pre-orders which folks have submitted) along to Grant when he has fewer things on his immediate plate. If the next model looks exactly like the last, it would not bother me in the least, but at least it won't be because I didn't ask. ;^) all the best, - Jim On Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:39:41 PM UTC-8, Peter Pesce wrote: > > Agreed Jim. Wouldn't it just be easier to see if there were 30 people > willing to pre-order an actual SO/QB? I know there's no opportunity for > creative expression in that, but it does seem odd to try to satisfy demand > for the those bikes with a new bike that will explicitly NOT be those > bikes! I know GP uses "clone" in a pejorative sense but to "keep making" a > bike is not "cloning" it. Besides, aren't there business side advantages to > continuing to sell, though perhaps on a limited, pre order basis, the bike > for which you already amortized the tooling and development costs? > > I have a last gen silver QB and love it. If it were stolen or wrecked I'd > seriously consider paying custom-shop money for a new one. I'm not the > least bit interested in a NewBeam that has the chunky tube set of my Sam, > double top tubes, or wavy gravy curved rear triangle bits. To me that bike > would have nothing in common with a QB beyond the dropouts. > > Pete in CT > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
