Don, if you have a moment, I would love to learn more about the differences
in handling characteristics that you perceive between your Ram and your
Rodeo.

PS:  The Ram that Saturday Cycles has available sounds like an awesome
bike.  Unfortunately, it is more $ than I am willing to spend right now
(just ask my wife!).

Sean


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Don Compton <dpco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a 59cm
> ), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a
> better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In
> general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a
> believer.
> Don
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>> Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full
>> build cost was about 4k....selling complete for 2400
>>   Frameset Riv Ramouillet  Brake Levers SRAM  Shifters Silver DT  Crank 
>> Sugino
>> compact2  Bottom Bracket SKF  Brakes Pauls Center  Front Derailleur IRD   
>> Rear
>> Derailleur Ultegra  Cassette Shimano HG80  Chain KMC 9x  Stem Nitto
>> Handlebars Nitto Noodle  Tape green  Headset Ultegra  Wheels:
>>  .--.Front Hub SON  .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood  .--.Spokes
>>  .--.Rims, 36H Synergy  Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green  Seatpost Nitto
>> Crystal  Tires Schwalbe Durano   Pedals
>>  Tubes
>>  Front Rack Nitto Marks  Cage
>>  Lamp  Edeluxe  Decalleur
>>  Bag Sackville sm
>> On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:
>>>
>>> Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions.
>>> Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay -
>>> the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing.  The consensus
>>> seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume,
>>> on a AHH).
>>>
>>> Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go
>>> after the 58 cm frame now on ebay.  How would being on a frame that is a
>>> bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike.  Likewise, what
>>> improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)?
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it
>>>>> seems others have already confirmed this:  60 cm seems just right for you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am between 6'-1" and 6'-2", but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you,
>>>>> with a long torso.   The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy
>>>>> tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically "touches flesh" when flat
>>>>> footed but  no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding
>>>>> I'd ever do on this type of bike.  And you might remember from the 
>>>>> original
>>>>> Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top 
>>>>> tubes,
>>>>> specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes.
>>>>> On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd
>>>>> proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike
>>>>> I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for
>>>>> anything.  I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder,
>>>>> and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no
>>>>> complaints.
>>>>>
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