I have been very happy with my San Marcos.  I have never ridden a 
Rambouillet, but I have talked with people who have and the biggest 
difference that they have commented on is that the San Marcos frame is 
stiffer.  I am 6' tall with an 89 cm pbh and I am riding a 59 San Marcos 
with a 7 cm stem; the handlebars are level with the 79 cm saddle height. 
 It easily fits 33.3 Jack Browns, but I haven't tried them with fenders.  I 
have ridden the San Marcos about 2500 over the last year and a half, 
including two RAGBRAI.  It has been very comfortable and predictable, and 
it climbs hills like a goat.

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:52:01 PM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am searching for a new bike.  I currently have a go-fast(ish) bike, a 
> Bob Brown custom, which can fit a tire no larger than 23 X 700.  I also 
> have a Trek 520 Touring bike from the early 1990s.  I am searching for a 
> bike to fit between these two models.
>
> Years ago I nearly purchased a Rivendell Rambouillet (I got the Bob Brown 
> instead), so I have a sentimental attachment to that bike.  Every now and 
> then a Ram appears here on the list or on ebay - I always find these 
> listings to be very tempting.  However, I wonder how much difference there 
> is between a used Ram and a new San Marcos.  The paint finish and headbadge 
> of the bikes do differ, but how much do the ride qualities differ?  At this 
> point, is it a better value to invest $900 in a used Rambo frame or $900 in 
> a new San Marcos?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Sean
>

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