Love my Mukluk-the geometry suits me better than the Pugs, and for the bike's mission, I think aluminum isn't a bad option. Recent shot of self (wearing wool and MUSA pants) and My Muk:
[image: Inline image 1] On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have a Pugsley and love it. It was my main mtn bike for a season, but > have gone back to my 2.3" shod Salsa Ala Carte. The rear facing drop-ins > didn't bother me, the wide Q was noticeable but didn't bother me. The huge > trail handling bothered me. Its head angle of 70.5 with fork rake at 43mm > yields 88mm of trail with 28mm of wheel flop. > > The Krampus, incredibly takes those numbers higher, HA 69.5, fork rake > 47mm, 76mm wide 29ers tires, yields trail of 96mm with 31mm of wheel flop! > > The Salsa Mukluk trail is also in the low 90s, plus it has the odd 170mm > wide rear hub, and is Al. All of those things are negatives for me. > > I think the Pugsley is the ideal fat bike platform to do different riding. > > > On Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:47:45 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > >> All the Surly FBs have rear-facing track ends, which I don't like at all. >> Only downside of an otherwise very cool bike. Looking at the Salsa Mukluk >> just because of the drop outs, although it's Al alloy which is not my >> preference. But yeah, the Krampus looks awesome! >> >> Cheers, >> David >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Kellie Stapleton >> <kellie.s...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Since I rarely ride snow, I would now get the *Krampus* (Surly), a >>> 29"er+ instead of a Pugs, but they just came out with them recently. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, Tonester wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm glad someone else brought this up, because I sure as hell wasn't >>>> going to out myself! When the fat bikes came out I thought "what a truly >>>> ridiculous idea". Since then, I've seen all sorts of cool adventures on >>>> youtube (find the guys who fatbiked/kayaked in Alaska!) and have moved to a >>>> place where I have access to miles of creekbed with potato sized rocks >>>> (everything from fingerlings to bakers). I tried riding my bike with 2.0 >>>> tires and couldn't hack it. I'm going to try again with my bike with 2.4s >>>> - if that doesn't cut it a Puglsey is on the the shopping list. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:17:29 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Damn, another bike to add to the want list. I must try one. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Kellie Stapleton < >>>>> kellie.s...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I can attest to the fact the Puglsey is more than for just snow; my >>>>>> only mtb bike: >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fMVg3EEwiPc/UZepZUpkyZI/AAAAAAAAAFc/VyOUfWxiIiU/s1600/photo-6.JPG> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:40:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was >>>>>>> special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a >>>>>>> few >>>>>>> Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 210 mm Q factor .... shudder. 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