I've never given this whole debate much thought. I like Rivendell bikes because when I manage to squeeze two or three hours out of my busy schedule on a weekend for a ride in the local mountains, I want to ride a "road bike" that will take me anywhere, including rocky trails if the notion grabs me. I hardly ever ride with other people, so speed is irrelevant. For commuting, I've been doing the rear load thing for at least 20 years (I still use my early '90s Overland panniers every day!), so the idea of a front load bike doesn't do much for me, although it seems that people carry front loads on Rivs and they seem to work fine for that, too. > > Bryan
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