I'm a strong advocate of not reading too much navel-gazing analyses of geometry 
and other BS, and JUST RIDE. That said...

It could be that what makes an optimal bike for brevets in the Cascades is 
somewhat different than what goes into GP's family of all-rounders that get 
tested on the rocky goat paths of Shell Ridge in Walnut Creek. Sure, a lot of 
Riv owners and enthusiasts get seduced by the romance of brevets, but I've 
never read GP expressing much interest in brevets, or in optimizing his bikes 
for Jan's front-loaded version of brevets. Undersized tubing? Maybe it's not 
obvious to everybody, but a lot of plus-sized people are drawn to Riv by the 
promise of high-bar comfort and sturdiness. Put some chugging 270-pounder on a 
bike with undersized tubes, and it's likely to get a bit too exciting to be 
enjoyable.

I come down on the Riv side. I shy away from the faintest whiff of daintiness 
and anything that seems French. I draw a lot more parallels between RBW and 
Surly than I do between RBW and the integrated rando bike concept.

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