It seems to me that what you've just said, Steve -- and I think it's all you've said -- is that you personally (and subjectively) value the incremental benefit in climbing/pedaling efficiency (relative to the efficiency of your Saluki) more than you value whatever is given up in other desirable characteristics of a bicycle (which in your subjective view may be very little; others might take a different view) to achieve that incremental efficiency. We can objectively measure that incremental pedaling efficiency. It's a lot harder (I think I would say impossible) to make an objective judgment of the net value to all riders (as opposed to any one individual rider) of the costs and benefits of any isolated design decision.
-----Original Message----- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 3:28 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:14 -0700, William wrote: > "So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to > agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was right. " > > > > > > > Of course you don't mean that Jan was objectively right, and by > extension that Grant was/is objectively wrong. You mean that > subjectively, for you and the riding and characteristics you have > evolved to prefer, Jan was right. > When on one bike I can easily power up a small grade and on the other I have to downshift downshift downshift we are beyond the realm of the subjective, and are firmly in "objective" territory. So yes I do mean Jan was objectively right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ **************************************************** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. **************************************************** **************************************************** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. **************************************************** ============================================================================== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
