> Over-shifting? (missing a gear or two or three)  Shifting hard on a 
climb?<

Neither throwing a chain (to the outside) or dropping a chain (to the 
inside) is the same as chain suck.  This is what chainsuck is:

>The general reason is that the chain does not disengage from the 
bottom of the inner chainring; thus the chain gets pulled up<

Normally, a chain link moves around the chainring and then disengages 
somewhere around 6 o'clock.  But with chainsuck, the chainlink fails to 
disengage at 6 o'clock so the chainring carries the chain link from 6 
o'clock to about 10 o'clock where the chain, chain stay and chain ring all 
jam up against each other.  I have no idea what causes it, and the first 
time it happened to me was on a brand new Rivendell on it's maiden test 
ride.  The bike was equipped with brand new components bought from and 
approved by Rivendell.




On Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:32:14 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> So, my naive question this week is: why do so many frames bear the scars 
> of chain suck?  I make no boasts about my own riding, none at all, in terms 
> of distance, longevity, or rigor. but I can't think of more than a couple 
> of times I've ever thrown a chain.  What causes the chain suck? 
>  Over-shifting? (missing a gear or two or three)  Shifting hard on a climb? 
>  Is this an issue that has gone away for those riding with indexed 
> shifting, and so more of an issue with friction-shifters?  Really just 
> wondering.  If this question is too dumb for words, you can reply off-line: 
> tgoodmann-at-gmail, etc.

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